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Cy we should be ranked higher this week based on our resume. Next week we have a by so some team should overtake us. If they have proved more than they have. I don't see that as being dropped. I see that as being reasonable.

Yes, you should be ranked higher than what you were previously ranked. Anywhere from 10-13 seems likely and reasonable to me. Anything higher seems unlikely, anything above 8 seems unreasonable. Top 5 is ridiculous.
 
Cy, stop trying to bug everyone.

My opinion: pre season polls are stupid because nobody has any idea about teams at that point, but sort of necessary for hype and making games fun to watch (it's fun to watch ranked teams, even if you know rankings don't mean much early season).

Knowing this, I think voters just need to be a lot less rigid with their rankings from week to week. They've been a lot less rigid the last few years, but they need to be even more so. Each week they should entirely re rank teams on how they feel about them, not just follow the unwritten rule of sliding a team slightly up or down each week unless they lose.

Nobody has any idea? Really? These teams aren't largely made up of the same players and coaches from previous years? Of course it's not perfect, but to say "nobody has any idea" is ridiculous. I know it's hard to be objective when your team is playing well and you want to get hyped, but I'm just being realistic and reasonable. No way in hell Utah should be ranked in the top 5.

I haven't said anything trolley or inflammatory about this subject and have only been reasonable given what the current system acts like. Utah fans want to create their own polling formula? Go for it.
 
Nobody has any idea? Really? These teams aren't largely made up of the same players and coaches from previous years? Of course it's not perfect, but to say "nobody has any idea" is ridiculous. I know it's hard to be objective when your team is playing well and you want to get hyped, but I'm just being realistic and reasonable. No way in hell Utah should be ranked in the top 5.

I haven't said anything trolley or inflammatory about this subject and have only been reasonable given what the current system acts like. Utah fans want to create their own polling formula? Go for it.

You're either joking or been asleep the last decade of you really think early season polls are accurate.

Just about every major college football voice has said that early season rankings are stupid, but somewhat necessary.

This is the reason they don't do any playoff rankings until mid season.

I'm not saying any of this because of Utah and have no problem with where we are ranked right now.

I also would rather have pre season rankings than not have them, just think some of the "old guard" voters need to stop being so rigid with their voting.
 
You're either joking or been asleep the last decade of you really think early season polls are accurate.

Just about every major college football voice has said that early season rankings are stupid, but somewhat necessary.

This is the reason they don't do any playoff rankings until mid season.

I'm not saying any of this because of Utah and have no problem with where we are ranked right now.

I also would rather have pre season rankings than not have them, just think some of the "old guard" voters need to stop being so rigid with their voting.

Never said they were accurate, just said they aren't completely inaccurate.

If you didnt have them, people would still act like they existed. A week 1 win over Oregon would still be more impressive than a week 1 win over Oregon State. Know what I'm saying?
 
I think I jumped into an argument and now it's unclear what each of us are saying.

All that I'm getting at is that voters should vote with more freedom instead of having to keep a team highly rated if they had them there last week.

Looks Like tons of voters did just that with Utah this week in the AP, and I'm not complaining at all.

Rankings should be a fresh week by week thing, not just a marginal update from week to week.
 
I think I jumped into an argument and now it's unclear what each of us are saying.

All that I'm getting at is that voters should vote with more freedom instead of having to keep a team highly rated if they had them there last week.

Looks Like tons of voters did just that with Utah this week in the AP, and I'm not complaining at all.

Rankings should be a fresh week by week thing, not just a marginal update from week to week.

I know what you are saying and I know you aren't one of the ones complaining about how it is, even though you disagree with the way it's done.

The problem with the "fresh" theory is how "fresh" do you want it? What would you rank Ohio State with the "fresh" ranking approach?
 
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