What's new
By:

3-wing lineups are a bandaid + we shouldn't wait for Dante

To get an impact player I feel like it will cost us Burks or Hood. Are we willing to part with one of those dudes, when Exum will be back next season?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
Lindsey isn't stupid. Dude knows what he's doing and while he wants to grow organically, I think he'll recognize the small conundrum here and make a move for a George Hill or the like if it can be made within reason.
 
Trading Exum is a dumb idea. Homer Simpson dumb. Utah has assets to replace hot trash Trey without selling low on Dante, they just need to wait until around midseason and hope for a significant upgrade to come available. They really have little choice otherwise, as they screwed the pooch by hanging on to trash can Trey in hopes that pooh could turn to gold. Offering up Exum right now isn't going to suddenly make some great pg magically become available.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
Trading Exum is a dumb idea. Homer Simpson dumb. Utah has assets to replace hot trash Trey without selling low on Dante, they just need to wait until around midseason and hope for a significant upgrade to come available. They really have little choice otherwise, as they screwed the pooch by hanging on to trash can Trey in hopes that pooh could turn to gold. Offering up Exum right now isn't going to suddenly make some great pg magically become available.
Click to expand...

I think most are in agreement trading Exum would be dumb. However, I think we WILL miss the playoffs waiting until mid season for a PG upgrade though. The offense looks horrific.
 
I'm not trading Dante, but the Jazz need to do something 6 weeks ago. Seriously don't know what they're thinking, there are/were some gettable players on the trade market or free agency. The Jazz need to start winning. I'd really rather not worry about Hayward having legitimate reasons to leave.
 
Jazz4ever said:
He was old 3 years ago, I think that ship has sailed.
Click to expand...

And yet, he'd be far and away the best PG on this team.

I'm not asking for more than a year. Another band-aid solution, sure, but those are useful and STILL better than anything we have going on right now. He should cost very little to acquire if the Knicks suck again this year.
 
NUMBERICA said:
And yet, he'd be far and away the best PG on this team.

I'm not asking for more than a year. Another band-aid solution, sure, but those are useful and STILL better than anything we have going on right now. He should cost very little to acquire if the Knicks suck again this year.
Click to expand...

Far and away? What does Calderon do well other than hit 3s? He is not nearly the distributor he used to be, at least not with Dallas and New York.

I would bet that, as bad as Trey Burke is, that New York would do a straight up Burke/Calderon trade without thinking twice.
 
NBA.com player tracking defensive stats are awesome. They track the number of field goals a player defended, what percentage they gave up and compare it to what they normally shoot.

Calderon is absolutely horrendous with this metric. Essentially his opponent shot 54.2%(!!!) when they normally would shoot 43.1%. 11.1% difference, the worst of any player who played half the season.
 
MDAV28 said:
NBA.com player tracking defensive stats are awesome. They track the number of field goals a player defended, what percentage they gave up and compare it to what they normally shoot.

Calderon is absolutely horrendous with this metric. Essentially his opponent shot 54.2%(!!!) when they normally would shoot 43.1%. 11.1% difference, the worst of any player who played half the season.
Click to expand...
He didn't have Gobert and favors on his team though
 
MDAV28 said:
Far and away? What does Calderon do well other than hit 3s? He is not nearly the distributor he used to be, at least not with Dallas and New York.

I would bet that, as bad as Trey Burke is, that New York would do a straight up Burke/Calderon trade without thinking twice.
Click to expand...
If I'm NY, I do that too. Mostly because Trey's young and I'd be a team that should try to get anything for Calderon and his deal because they should probably rebuild. His cap number means little to the Jazz and they could use a proven NBA PG.

What Calderon does is hit open shots well (we don't have a PG that does this), pass well, not turn the ball over, and not tax the team with his possessions. I'm aware that Calderon is no longer a star in the league, but fans have this attitude that you're either great or worthless. Calderon is neither, and for what would likely cost nothing but his cap number if he were to be on the block, that's good.
 
fishonjazz said:
He didn't have Gobert and favors on his team though
Click to expand...

He also played on a complete ****ing rat-storm of a team that played no defense as a team.

Basketball is a very dynamic team sport and players are not automatons. Trey Burke suddenly appears to be a good defender when he shares the floor with Gobert and Favors. The most important factor in perimeter defense in most cases is who's protecting the rim. We watched what happens to supposedly high-level perimeter defenders with 0 rim protection for years and it was not good.
 
dalamon said:
I will never understand Numb's fascination with Jose.
Click to expand...
As an offensive player, he's (been) kind of a perfect pure point guard. For some reason, point guards that hit open shots, move the ball, don't **** up, and don't do much more (or in other words, use possessions well and don't tax their teams with trying to do too much) are pretty rare.
 
Anyway, of course it doesn't have to be Calderon. I just don't know who the Jazz are going to get that is going to make everyone happy without giving up a piece that makes no one happy.
 
Dante is becoming more overrated than Kanter's pancake ***. Trading value-gamble at a high point isn't the same as "giving up on".
 
franklin said:
Dante is becoming more overrated than Kanter's pancake ***. Trading value-gamble at a high point isn't the same as "giving up on".
Click to expand...

It's weird, I feel like you're the one overrating him by assuming that his trade value is at a high-point. There is maybe a handful of teams that would give up anything of value for a huge question mark like Exum. His value to the Jazz is probably higher than anywhere else, other than maybe Philly.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Anyway, of course it doesn't have to be Calderon. I just don't know who the Jazz are going to get that is going to make everyone happy without giving up a piece that makes no one happy.
Click to expand...

I don't think trading Burks would be a big deal. We were good without him.

Maybe someone like Jordan Clarkson is available?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Share this page
Back
Top