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homeytennis

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It appears to me that the Jazz have six healthy players that are decent. OK we add Rudy and Dante and that leaves us 8. I think he have to face the fact that the other 7 players are basically garbage. I think that Little Sap, Chris Johnson, JIngles, Neto, Withey, Pleis and Lyles are or should be on thin ice. I know that Neto, Pleis JIngles and Lyles all have a form of guarantees but they are not getting it done folks.
 
Lyles should get a pass as he is a rookie. And ingle contributed last year so give him a couple more months. Everyone else sucks though.
 
Lyles should get a pass as he is a rookie. And ingle contributed last year so give him a couple more months. Everyone else sucks though.

I know Lyles and JIngles aren't going anywhere but if they weren't on a guaranteed contract they would be sweating right now.
 
I think Ingles is out because of Gobert. I think Quin feels like he needs some defensive intensity to make up for Rudy.
 
I know Lyles and JIngles aren't going anywhere but if they weren't on a guaranteed contract they would be sweating right now.

Any GM would pick Lyles up immediately if he were to get cut. Imagine if the Warriors gave up on Draymond halfway through his rookie year because he wasn't playing well. Give it time.
 
It appears to me that the Jazz have six healthy players that are decent. OK we add Rudy and Dante and that leaves us 8. I think he have to face the fact that the other 7 players are basically garbage. I think that Little Sap, Chris Johnson, JIngles, Neto, Withey, Pleis and Lyles are or should be on thin ice. I know that Neto, Pleis JIngles and Lyles all have a form of guarantees but they are not getting it done folks.
Lots of your posts are about how we shouldn't have let this or that end of the bench guy go, and most of your others are about how we should pick up this d-league or that d-league flash in the pan, and now you think we should let half our team go? I always assumed you had some sort of unquenchable soft spot for end of the bench guys, but maybe it's actually a soft spot for end of the bench guys that we don't have. AmIright?
 
It appears to me that the Jazz have six healthy players that are decent. OK we add Rudy and Dante and that leaves us 8. I think he have to face the fact that the other 7 players are basically garbage. I think that Little Sap, Chris Johnson, JIngles, Neto, Withey, Pleis and Lyles are or should be on thin ice. I know that Neto, Pleis JIngles and Lyles all have a form of guarantees but they are not getting it done folks.

Your the worthless one here. Lyles is a 19 year old rookie, who is starting to hit some jumpers and plays with a nice motor.

Ingles proved himself last year and has shown to be a playmaker and energizer.

Neto is also a rookie and has shown some potential and the ability to improve his shot. He just needs time.

This is Whithy's third year, and first time he's ever gotten consistent minutes. He's athletic plays hard and one of the better backup big rim protectors in the NBA.

The rest I don't care about.

Maybe you are the problem. U should be on thin ice and worried about position here. I guess u would prefer to fill those slots with all 6-10 million a year players?! Not going to happen. I see most of these guys having the ability to grow and have futures on this team. I take comfort in the fact that you don't have one damned clue what the hell you are talking about.

All u do is start worthless thread after worthless thread, and rarely get called for it. Maybe it's u that needs to go.
 
It appears to me that the Jazz have six healthy players that are decent. OK we add Rudy and Dante and that leaves us 8. I think he have to face the fact that the other 7 players are basically garbage. I think that Little Sap, Chris Johnson, JIngles, Neto, Withey, Pleis and Lyles are or should be on thin ice. I know that Neto, Pleis JIngles and Lyles all have a form of guarantees but they are not getting it done folks.

I agree to a point. I like to think of the players in tiers. And let me add I don't consider ANYONE untouchable - not even Gobert. Favors and a great stretch-4 could be even better than Favors/Gobert. I'd rank Derrick as our #1 player, then Gobert and Hayward as tied for 2 and 3.

Tier 1 - Favors, Gobert, Hayward: Would take an unusual trade offer to pry these guys away from Utah. To me - and I know this is controversial - I'd take a good hard look at other options if Hayward wants $28-$30M. He just isn't a #1 option. He rarely takes over games. Yes, he's pretty good on both ends of the court, but not great at anything. Re-signing Favors, IMO, is a bigger priority. As for Rudy, I'm disappointed he didn't improve over who he was last season. That has me worried he's near his ceiling.

Tier 2 - Burks, Hood. Rodney is struggling right now, but his stroke looks so good. Alec has come back strong from his injury. Should only consider trading in a package if Utah gets an all-star player in return.

Tier 3 - Burke, Jingles.. Have played well this season. No idea why Jingles hasn't played more; he actually has the best shooting percentage among the wings. Burke needs to be dealt in a package to get a starting PG.

Tier 4 - Millsap, Johnson, Withey, Pleiss, Neto, Booker. No better than third options at their respective positions. Booker has been a huge disappointment. He shouldn't be re-signed. Neto can't shoot. At best, he should be the 3rd-string PG, not the starter. But Lindsey traded up for him. Dennis is trying to make his choice look good.

Too Early to Tell - Exum, Lyles. I hated the Lyles pick. Still do. But unfair to judge 1/4 of the way through his rookie season. As for Exum, he hasn't shown he's a legit starter. And he's coming back from a major injury. I hope he becomes a tier #2 player.
 
The guys with guaranteed contracts will not be cut or moved. That isn't how the league works to can them. Now for the guys with non-guarnteed deals they ought to be breathing hard. Litte Sap played OK last night. Withey did OK too. But if there is any smoke to the Toure Murry rumor someone has to hit the waiver wire and I'm guessing it's Johnson based on playing time last night.
 
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