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The Jazz are trading D-Will to New Jersey!?

fairweather said:
For me, this trade is merely the culmination of several years of major screw-ups. This team had great potential four years ago and now look at it.
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Agree. I think AK's contract and the refusal to trade him was one of the factors that ultimately snowballed into this situation. Jazz generally do a good job of salvaging in a tough situation and thats what they seem to have done, again. But I think if things had been handled a bit differently it might not have even gotten to this.

KOC was selling the "rebuilding for a championship" BS sometime back and he has to sell that all over again. And then the Jazz will trade Favors or he will leave on his own after 2 years and then they will start all over again.

Thats how it is going to go from here. It is going to be difficult for this franchise to either get/keep marquee players considering the current state of the superstar-driven NBA
 
I can't really complain about the package they got back in return. A top 3 pick that everyone wanted on draft day, a most likely top 5 pick in the upcoming draft, a servicable PG and even an additional 1st rounder from a known cellar-dwellar in GS. But, with that being said, they should've tried and tried again until they were completely out of options to add more pieces to the team over the rest of the life of Deron's contract. If that fails and he is adament about not re-signing, than fine, trade him. I feel this is way to early and a severe case of jumping the gun on KOC and the Greg Miller's part. Totally dissapointed and deflated.

Here's to the future, I guess.
 
Sad to see Deron go, but maybe the FO knew(or believed strongly) he was not going to re-up.

Now that Deron is the enemy we can point out a few flaws in his game to make us feel better.

-His defense. I hate it. He seemed like a average to bad defender most of his career here(imo). Never liked his defense.
- After his injury with DRose he really never was the same. After that moment I saw him beast less, and he never quite looked the same even
though he had some occasional great games. Overall something changed at that moment. He's been "banged" up ever since. Never quite at full strength.
- His play this year. Horrible at times. Not the same Deron Williams we seen before, and loved. His jumper wasn't there, and he seemed to really struggle at times
even attacking the rim.
-His turnovers. Sloppy play from the All Star. Hard to watch this year, and it even cost us some games.
-Leadership. Where was it? He doesn't want to get in people's face, and "be that guy"? What the hell Deron?
-PGs dont win titles. Making Deron the cornerstone of the team wasn't going to get us a title. We had to get a better bigs, and a SG.

All in all though he will be missed, but at least the above points do make it a tad easier for me to let him go.
I still think he's got a really good side to him. He signs autographs, takes pictures with fans, good with charities etc.
I do wish him the best in NJ, and his future career.
 
dwill_mvp said:
I can't really complain about the package they got back in return. A top 3 pick that everyone wanted on draft day, a most likely top 5 pick in the upcoming draft, a servicable PG and even an additional 1st rounder from a known cellar-dwellar in GS. But, with that being said, they should've tried and tried again until they were completely out of options to add more pieces to the team over the rest of the life of Deron's contract. If that fails and he is adament about not re-signing, than fine, trade him. I feel this is way to early and a severe case of jumping the gun on KOC and the Greg Miller's part. Totally dissapointed and deflated.

Here's to the future, I guess.
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time to change your name buddy ;-)
 
No, they already spoke with Sloan about it. He declined on coming back. They confirmed that on the News Conference yesterday that they have no intention on bringing Sloan back.
 
Who knows, this trade could very well be a good thing. Devon Harris's Stats aren't TERRIBLE.. I mean they're not AMAZING.. but they're not terrible. We needed a big guy and hopefully Favors will pick up that void, looking at some of his highlight videos, he looks like he's willing to get a little messy in the paint. Two First Round Draft picks and they could be Lottery picks, that should be good! :) I don't have anything bad to say about D-Will, after Sloan leaving, he got a lot of ridicule and lost a lot of fan support. So cheers to him for trading teams in my opinion.
 
fairweather said:
I disagree. Deron's better than Dirk. We just needed another star talent to be a contender.
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This post proves my point. We just needed "star talent" to be a contender. Which star? Like I asked before, be specific.

And how do we get this star? Utah isn't exactly a Mecca of tourism and nightclubs. Especially if this star is an African American.

So which star?

And how do we get him? We aren't exactly under the cap... In fact, we were going to pay a lot in luxury tax.

It's too easy to bash KOC for not getting Deron "star talent" in the next few years. But KOC cannot work like that. He actually needs to you know, take into consideration a specific player (not just talent), the salary of that player, the other team's salary cap situation, our own, whether the player will actually come and play for us, etc.
This isn't NBA 2k11 when you can just override a trade that allows us to trade Ronnie Price for Lebron James.

So please, I ask once more, who should KOC traded and for whom? Who should KOC signed? How would KOC constructed a contender in the next 2 years? Be specific.
 
The Thriller said:
This post proves my point. We just needed "star talent" to be a contender. Which star? Like I asked before, be specific.

And how do we get this star? Utah isn't exactly a Mecca of tourism and nightclubs. Especially if this star is an African American.

So which star?

And how do we get him? We aren't exactly under the cap... In fact, we were going to pay a lot in luxury tax.

It's too easy to bash KOC for not getting Deron "star talent" in the next few years. But KOC cannot work like that. He actually needs to you know, take into consideration a specific player (not just talent), the salary of that player, the other team's salary cap situation, our own, whether the player will actually come and play for us, etc.
This isn't NBA 2k11 when you can just override a trade that allows us to trade Ronnie Price for Lebron James.

So please, I ask once more, who should KOC traded and for whom? Who should KOC signed? How would KOC constructed a contender in the next 2 years? Be specific.
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Yeah, and trading our best asset 1.5 years before his contract is up in a VERY risky deal will definitely get us to a championship faster. You're pathetic.
 
1.5 years is technically correct, but you only have 7 weeks of this season and maybe no season at all next year. I think the uncertainty of next season and a rookie coach were deciding factors, but it was probably because of Deron's attitude that a phone call was made in the first place.
 
Has there been anything in the papers about Deron's so-called "passing notes" with Knicks management during all star weekend and the Jazz finding out about it? That's probably where the smoking gun lies as to why this deal was put together in 24 hours immediately following all star break.
 
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