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So What Position FA?

Handlogten's Heros said:
I agree to the idea of overpaying FA to come, but I'd rather overpay guys who are good and young and have the potential to live up to or exceed their contract value. Conley will cost like $25 M a year for 4 years. His next contract could very likely become an awful contract.
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Teams control guys for 7-9 years through rookie contracts and then restricted free agency. Unless a player comes via trade - and who is going to trade one of those high potential players unless we send someone of value their way? Or we could take a chance on a player like Kanter - i.e. disgruntled player who wants to change teams (or like Morris from Phoenix). Any good player we get as an UFA is going to be in their late 20's - unless we're continuing to sign the Trevor Booker or Jeff Withey types. While those guys are nice to have, they're not going to be high impact players.
 
We are all in on Durant or the rebuild is a bust. Durant and a starting point guard. Hyping for Exum is filling a hand with ****. LLF Durant is not coming here with Exum starting.
 
Stifle Tower said:
Teams control guys for 7-9 years through rookie contracts and then restricted free agency. Unless a player comes via trade - and who is going to trade one of those high potential players unless we send someone of value their way? Or we could take a chance on a player like Kanter - i.e. disgruntled player who wants to change teams (or like Morris from Phoenix). Any good player we get as an UFA is going to be in their late 20's - unless we're continuing to sign the Trevor Booker or Jeff Withey types. While those guys are nice to have, they're not going to be high impact players.
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ATL signed Paul Millsap (I'm referring to his first contract there), DeMarre Carroll, and Kent Bazemore and got super high value in return in all three cases. None of them fit into your "high-value" or "Kanter-like" models you just proposed.
 
Boris said:
We are all in on Durant or the rebuild is a bust. Durant and a starting point guard. Hyping for Exum is filling a hand with ****. LLF Durant is not coming here with Exum starting.
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wish I could turn Boris red again.
 
Stifle Tower said:
Teams control guys for 7-9 years through rookie contracts and then restricted free agency. Unless a player comes via trade - and who is going to trade one of those high potential players unless we send someone of value their way? Or we could take a chance on a player like Kanter - i.e. disgruntled player who wants to change teams (or like Morris from Phoenix). Any good player we get as an UFA is going to be in their late 20's - unless we're continuing to sign the Trevor Booker or Jeff Withey types. While those guys are nice to have, they're not going to be high impact players.
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I am not looking for franchise changing talent in FA... that will likely never happen, but there are plenty of guys that make impact because their teams can't pay them or they never got much of an opportunity. Okur is a great example... backup until he came here, but was capable of a bigger role. Cory Joseph was another guy who is young but making an impact. Jazz had this guy named Wesley Matthews that fits the bill of the type I would be after.

I'm looking for good rotation talent in FA not cornerstones.
 
Bazemore has a 7' wingspan.
He won the National Defensive Player of the year at Old Dominion.
Last year, he posted a better defensive win share rating than the first 4 years of Hayward's career and is measuring better than him so far this year
He guards the SF.
Hacl doesn't watch the Hawks, but "lol", amiright?
 
NAOS said:
Bazemore has a 7' wingspan.
He won the National Defensive Player of the year at Old Dominion.
Last year, he posted a better defensive win share rating than the first 4 years of Hayward's career and is measuring better than him so far this year
He guards the SF.
Hacl doesn't watch the Hawks, but "lol", amiright?
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Do you really think he can guard the likes of Durant and Leonard?

Either way-- I'm happy with a Bazemore contract only to a certain extent. ATL will overpay for him, and I dont think we personally should.
 
what track record does the current leadership of ATL have for overpaying players?

I've NEVER said that we're looking for a guy to LOCK DOWN the wing FULL-TIME. I'm talking about getting a guy who CAN GUARD THE WING DOWN THE STRETCH OF CLOSE GAMES SO HAYWARD CAN FOCUS ON BUCKETS. Why has the latter been consistently misrecognized as meaning something like the former? I'm not hyping Bazemore as a first-option offensive or defensive player. He's probably better than Burks, though, fit-wise, in both aspects of the game. And, it's realistic to think about acquiring him.

Bazemore is about equal to Hayward when it comes to defending the wing. Some may say he is (or could) surpassing Hayward as a defender. Wouldn't you like to add a wing defender of that caliber to this roster? Don't you also appreciate that he can switch onto guards without a problem?
 
NAOS said:
Bazemore has a 7' wingspan.
He won the National Defensive Player of the year at Old Dominion.
Last year, he posted a better defensive win share rating than the first 4 years of Hayward's career and is measuring better than him so far this year
He guards the SF.
Hacl doesn't watch the Hawks, but "lol", amiright?
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Lol
 
Cy would like to return to his conversation about Hayward's one-eye and its snug fit in his concavity.
 
No top level free agents will be changing teams and heading to Utah this offseason. DL says that he's hoping for a "Reggie White" type of acquisition in free agency. Won't happen. The only way to acquire that guy is to trade for a player to get his Bird Rights and then offer him significantly more than anyone else can.
 
Ellis269 said:
No top level free agents will be changing teams and heading to Utah this offseason. DL says that he's hoping for a "Reggie White" type of acquisition in free agency. Won't happen. The only way to acquire that guy is to trade for a player to get his Bird Rights and then offer him significantly more than anyone else can.
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Ya never know.. Gotta leave it open.. Brad "bubble-wrap" Beal's injury history might make him more gettable than some are presuming.. There's talk he might need to be on a minutes restriction for the rest of his career, and with Hayward, Burks and Hood here, plus a big PG in Exum, he could play a big role on reduced minutes, it could actually be an ideal situation for him basketball-wise.. Plus he's just 22, If he can stay healthy there's plenty of upside for the Jazz, even at max dollars.

Exum - Burke - Neto
Beal - Burks - (1st rd pick?)
Hayward - Hood - Ingles
Favors - Lyles
Gobert - Withey - (1st rd pick?)

If Exum's shooting improves, which it will, and Burks stays inthe high 30's and Burke shoots as he has been this season.. The Jazz would all of a sudden have plenty of firepower on the perimeter.. I like it!!
 
PG_AB said:
Ya never know.. Gotta leave it open.. Brad "bubble-wrap" Beal's injury history might make him more gettable than some are presuming.. There's talk he might need to be on a minutes restriction for the rest of his career, and with Hayward, Burks and Hood here, plus a big PG in Exum, he could play a big role on reduced minutes, it could actually be an ideal situation for him basketball-wise.. Plus he's just 22, If he can stay healthy there's plenty of upside for the Jazz, even at max dollars.

Exum - Burke - Neto
Beal - Burks - (1st rd pick?)
Hayward - Hood - Ingles
Favors - Lyles
Gobert - Withey - (1st rd pick?)

If Exum's shooting improves, which it will, and Burks stays inthe high 30's and Burke shoots as he has been this season.. The Jazz would all of a sudden have plenty of firepower on the perimeter.. I like it!!
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Not a bad post but while I'd say there'd be plenty of firepower, there wouldn't be plenty of minutes for all involved.
 
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