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Because not making the playoffs to making them is a significant jump don't you think? Now if we made the playoffs (say an 8th seed) and didn't find a way to improve the following season then that would be frustrating. You always have to aim for the playoffs if you have a shot. You either tank properly or you're all in for the win. I rather not make the playoffs was a very empty comment if you ask me.

Again this leads us back to the failed draft system, where the 'middle class' of the season is penalized and the tankers are favored. Socialists.

Making the playoffs isn't a significant jump at all if you go from 38 wins one year to 35 or 36 the next. It's a completely artificial jump. A bandaid for the fans, really.

And I fail to see what's empty about wanting the 10th pick over the 15th pick and 4 blowout losses to the Warriors.
 
Making the playoffs isn't a significant jump at all if you go from 38 wins one year to 35 or 36 the next. It's a completely artificial jump. A bandaid for the fans, really.

And I fail to see what's empty about wanting the 10th pick over the 15th pick and 4 blowout losses to the Warriors.

Firstly, a 5 spot differential in the draft is overrated. Secondly, it implies rooting for losses, what kind of system encourages this aberration in sports. And finally, as a player it would show that the team and system that I'm playing for has effectively improved. I just don't get that approach what can I say.

May I say a 5 spot differential in that zone in the draft board, before you go on to say something like 'oh you think the number 1 pick isn't better than the 6th?'. Let's be realistic here.
 
only if we had favors exum and burks... we should be at 5th seed right now. maybe even higher.

I think we can have a good record after all star break... if favors and burks come back
 
Firstly, a 5 spot differential in the draft is overrated. Secondly, it implies rooting for losses, what kind of system encourages this aberration in sports. And finally, as a player it would show that the team and system that I'm playing for has effectively improved. I just don't get that approach what can I say.

Making the playoffs with 30 something wins a year after missing it with 30 something wins doesn't show improvement at all. It shows the West has regressed.
 
Making the playoffs with 30 something wins a year after missing it with 30 something wins doesn't show improvement at all. It shows the West has regressed.

People are only going to see that we made the playoffs this season, not how me made them. Next to not even making them. So what if we don't get a 5th seed or home court advantage it's not worth it? Where do you draw your line?
 
I think the 8th, 7th, 6th and 5th seeds should also have a shot in the lottery. The 4 teams with home court advantage are already in a very exciting position heading towards the playoffs. I don't know something needs to change. This system sucks.
 
People are only going to see that we made the playoffs this season, not how me made them. Next to not even making them. So what if we don't get a 5th seed or home court advantage it's not worth it? Where do you draw your line?

Just like how Boston or the Nets are super respected for making the playoffs.
 
People are only going to see that we made the playoffs this season, not how me made them. Next to not even making them.

Hence why I said making the playoffs is only a bandaid for the fans.

Look, this is all a lot easier to understand if you stop pretending that making the playoffs levels you up.
 
Just like how Boston or the Nets are super respected for making the playoffs.

I have more respect for Boston than for Philly. The Nets are in the 76ers' league as for mismanagement. The 2 extremes of how to mismanage a roster, overtanking or overspending.
 
You probably wouldn't have respected the '05-06 Jazz either.

They missed the playoffs, and despite missing the Jamezz respect level up, they somehow managed to improve and become a legit playoff contender the following season.
 
If we have a winning record and get into the playoffs, Ill be happy.

If we have a losing record and make the playoffs, that would suck.

Wouldnt feel earned or like the team gained much, plus we would lose out what would probably be a top 10 draft pick.
 
Hence why I said making the playoffs is only a bandaid for the fans.

Look, this is all a lot easier to understand if you stop pretending that making the playoffs levels you up.

It's a genuine thought I'm not pretending anything, especially if we're gonna stick to this roster like it seems we're doing. Either that or start spending. Again do we want to start looking up and maybe start using our assets or do we blow it all up again and play the failed system. I wouldn't want to be in DL's shoes at this moment.
 
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