Why do we play so slow?

[r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t]

For the second straight season we are the slowest team in the NBA, and it is not that close.

https://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/teamstats/_/sort/paceFactor

We have young players, playing half our games at high altitude. This makes no sense to me. I realize our point guards are terrible, but there are other teams with bad point guards (76ers, Nuggets, for example) that manage to play at a faster pace.

Please, help me understand.

Thanks.

 

[trelum]

Because playing fast doesn't directly correlate to wins. How many games are the 76ers and Nuggets winning?

Maybe there is a middle ground and we shouldn't be the slowest in the league but I do think our defense suffers when the pace of play picks up, for whatever reason.

 

[r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t]

Because playing fast doesn't directly correlate to wins. How many games are the 76ers and Nuggets winning?

Maybe there is a middle ground and we shouldn't be the slowest in the league but I do think our defense suffers when the pace of play picks up, for whatever reason.

As young as we are and playing at altitude, we would surely steal at least a few games a season, simply running the other team off the court.

Oh, and welcome to the JazzFanz!

 

[fishonjazz]

I for one think that using our youth, athleticism, and altitude to our advantage is a great idea.

I'm flabbergasted that the jazz don't run like crazy.... Especially considering the fact that our half court offense is a mess due to the opponent not needing to guard rudy at all and not having to worry about us killing them from three.

I definitely think we should try to get shots off quicker, especially in transition......
though the downside would be that if we increase the pace then we wouldn't get to pass rudy the ball at the three point line and watch him look for a guy to pass to and then not be able to find anyone so Hayward, hood, neto, etc have to come to rudy for the handoff and then swing the ball around the outside until the shot clock is down to 5 seconds and then actually look for a scoring opportunity.

Wait, is that actually a downside?

 

[sahlensguy]

The slow pace plays into our defense and keeps Rudy fresh. It's something to build around, at least when Exum is rolling...

 

[jope]

If the pace doesn't increase with a more confident Exum, and the return of Burks (both of whom are very fast, young players) then the offense is without question, not being maximized. We will see

 

[r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t]

 

[sahlensguy]

If the pace doesn't increase with a more confident Exum, and the return of Burks (both of whom are very fast, young players) then the offense is without question, not being maximized. We will see

But Burks shouldn't start over Hood, and Exum is a couple of years from running a competent up tempo game.

Mack can run it, but we don't have the shooters either, and Rudy only clogs the paint.

 

[r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t]

Second lowest fast-break-points per-game team in the league.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/fastbreak-points-per-game

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Because we are slower than average at every position besides when Burks plays.

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[Saint Cy of JFC]

Because we are slower than average at every position besides when Burks plays.

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CJ too, he is pretty fast end to end.

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[MT Steve]

though the downside would be that if we increase the pace then we wouldn't get to pass rudy the ball at the three point line and watch him look for a guy to pass to and then not be able to find anyone so Hayward, hood, neto, etc have to come to rudy for the handoff and then swing the ball around the outside until the shot clock is down to 5 seconds and then actually look for a scoring opportunity.

Wait, is that actually a downside?

Watching that actually isn't as bad as watching this team try to score in transition. The ways they find to botch fastbreaks are astonishing.

Hard truth is, we really don't have the personnel to play fast.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I for one think that using our youth, athleticism, and altitude to our advantage is a great idea.

I'm flabbergasted that the jazz don't run like crazy.... Especially considering the fact that our half court offense is a mess due to the opponent not needing to guard rudy at all and not having to worry about us killing them from three.

I definitely think we should try to get shots off quicker, especially in transition......
though the downside would be that if we increase the pace then we wouldn't get to pass rudy the ball at the three point line and watch him look for a guy to pass to and then not be able to find anyone so Hayward, hood, neto, etc have to come to rudy for the handoff and then swing the ball around the outside until the shot clock is down to 5 seconds and then actually look for a scoring opportunity.

Wait, is that actually a downside?

Downside is we tire out our starters, who already have to shoulder a huge burden of the game since our bench blows. By playing fast it also allows the other team to play faster, which means they will have to go against our half-court defense less.

 

[The Fresh Prince]

It baffles me that we don't play a more up tempo play with the athleticism we have on this team. We run off analytics and all of this special ****, yet we play like we are stuck in the 80s some nights. It's cool we have a good defense, but when you're dropping games to teams like the Nets, at home, then something has to be tweaked.

 

[sahlensguy]

It's not wise to play up tempo against small ball teams, when you're not a small ball team yourself.

 

[fishonjazz]

Downside is we tire out our players

Do our starters play allot more minutes than the starters of other teams?

 

[Getting Traded]

As things stand now, Rudy is having trouble getting up and down the court, if you haven't noticed. Maybe it's because of his knee, not sure, but that certainly is a reason to slow us down.

 

[sahlensguy]

As things stand now, Rudy is having trouble getting up and down the court, if you haven't noticed. Maybe it's because of his knee, not sure, but that certainly is a reason to slow us down.

Even so, were we a ever a running team with Rudy on the floor?

 

[trelum]

Do our starters play allot more minutes than the starters of other teams?

I don't know that they are playing more but I think one could argue that they should if we're trying to win more games. The drop-off from the starters to the bench is basically a cliff. I honestly think adding real bench depth might be as important for improving this team as anything else (becoming similar to a Boston or Toronto maybe). But that's just my own feeling and is probably influenced by listening to Locke trying to convince everyone of that recently.

 

[fishonjazz]

As things stand now, Rudy is having trouble getting up and down the court, if you haven't noticed. Maybe it's because of his knee, not sure, but that certainly is a reason to slow us down.

Well that's true but don't other teams have slow guys?
I mean youngest team, high altitude, inept half court offense = slowest pace in the entire league?

Doesn't make sense to me