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Passing skills: achilles heel

I think Exum definitely will help our overall assist numbers and the number of "he threaded the needle there" or "I didn't even notice he was open" or just "wow, what a nice pass" passes.

Also, the other reason our assist numbers are terrible is that Snyder doesn't try to make Favors the focal point of the offense. Favors' game is ideal for pick n roll (he consistently hits the 15-17 footer and he finishes strong at the basket) but yet we rarely run it successfully. Hayward is our primary ball handler but he's sucks at setting up and running the PNR (always ends up driving to the basket himself or making an "empty" pass to a guarded teammate). If we weren't so committed towards making Hayward our "featured" player we would probably be a lot better. I know Jerry Sloan would use Favors more if he were coaching this team.
 
As others have stated, Lyles is definitely competent. Rudy has even shown some great passes (especially when a player trailers toward the hoop).

Hood has racked up assists and will no doubt continue to work on it. Hayward is solid.

Exum has the potential.

I think part of the blame relies in the actual offense on the players without the ball moving and not just standing there doing nothing.
 
I think part of the blame relies in the actual offense on the players without the ball moving and not just standing there doing nothing.

Or at least moving with purpose. I think Hayward moves well withoutout the ball, others not so much. This is where guys like Horny and Doug Collins were exceptional. (Dated myself with the Collins comment)
 
I think the Jazz are a team filled with relatively good passers tbh. The bigger problem might be the lack of scoring threats and guys that can consistently put the defense at a disadvantage. If a lot of the dudes were better scorers, shooters, and finishers it'd really bump up the APG, obviously.
 
I think the Jazz are a team filled with relatively good passers tbh. The bigger problem might be the lack of scoring threats and guys that can consistently put the defense at a disadvantage. If a lot of the dudes were better scorers, shooters, and finishers it'd really bump up the APG, obviously.

Hayward, Hood and Favors can each go for 20 on any night Lyles can go for 15 on any night. Ideally, we'd like to see Exum and Gobert average around 12.5 each next year so they too seem like guys who could go for 15 on any night. Maybe add in one draftee or vet who too can be a solid option.
 
Passing isnt the problem at all. The problem is the lack of quick penetration to collapse defenses.
 
Gobert will be above average? Jesus, the board's crowning of Rudy is ****ing absurd. He averages 1.5 assists per game. That's impressive and leads you to believe he will be above average? While he has skills, I'll give you that, his assist numbers will never be above average imo (other than perhaps very marginally) because he can't do **** in the post offensively in order to draw a double or triple team and have guys wide open who he can dish to like Hakeem and Shaq. The Rudy lovefest needs to ****ing stop.

1.5 APG puts Rudy at 16th overall for centers, so he is right on the verge of being above average for centers.

Most years 2.0 apg puts you in the top 10.
 
Through all of your different incarnations one thing always stays the same: you're definitely a guy full of hip knowledge and takes about the team; you don't fall for the group-think around here because you're above group-think; you figured out a long time ago that individuation is what gets you ahead in the rep game.

The problem is that you're really just part of the drone about Rudy. Right now the drone is talking about how Rudy is holding back our offense. There's truth to that, but his impact is definitely over-stated. I don't know what the advanced stats for the last 30 games say, but before that our offense was better with him on the floor. The next stupid line of thought coming from drone ties back to its unstated theory about the process of improve at a game. Y'all seem to have some flat, dumb ideas about stuff. Sometimes a player busts above a plateau he'd been on for a while because a new skill opens up 6 or 7 other previous skills because this new skill provides just one new way to impact the game. To this point, I'd say that Rudy's passing is coming along quite nicely, and the very moment he adds a good move or two (which I believe he will), then his impact via passing will blossom.

So, the next question for you is will you let me be a fan of Rudy's offense still? Or will you be the loudest part of the drone that tells me I'm being naive?

Here's something you should read really carefully: I'm going to continue to be a fan of Rudy and believe in his progress regardless of what you say. For a while, probably. He's just finishing his first year as a full-time starter, and he was seriously injured at the midpoint. He's young. He's driven. He's in the top-3 best defenders in the league.

For those of you that had a hard time understanding what he was saying, allow me to interpret. After reading his short novel I believe he is telling you about the benefits of a flying vacuum which he has created and how much better a flying vacuum is as opposed to a vacuum that doesn't fly. Confused still? Exactly!
 
For those of you that had a hard time understanding what he was saying, allow me to interpret. After reading his short novel I believe he is telling you about the benefits of a flying vacuum which he has created and how much better a flying vacuum is as opposed to a vacuum that doesn't fly. Confused still? Exactly!

I saw "drone" and thought he was talking about another strike on terrorists.
 
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