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Would you trade Hayward+assets for John Wall??

Wizard team would be:

Exum
Beal
Hood
Morris
Gortat

So they need some bigs clearly, good thing they would have 2 lottery picks in a draft full of athletic and huge bigs (oof nevermind Phoenix owns their pick, this makes the trade even more juicy for them then). They would also have a ton of $$$ to pursue free agents. I would go out and sign Dwight Howard. Shooting surrounding Howard with a young talented PG, that could unlock Orlando Magic era Howard.
 
King Cy said:
If you trade Hayward and assets for Wall you are still at square 1. I'd rather have Hayward and Wall and trade a big player package consisting of our younger players.

Exum/Hood/1st round draft pick for Wall. That's a pretty good package (Wizards get a starting SG who shows a lot of promise and a PG who many believe to have All-Star potential as well a late lotto pick. Meanwhile the Jazz retain a lot of their top players who can help them win in the immediate future). Then actually go out and sign someone like Bazemore who can be a starting 2-guard (or Barnes, point is get a starting caliber wing who can play off the ball).

Wall/Mack
Bazemore/Burks
Hayward/Ingles
Favors/Lyles
Gobert/Withey

Is that a pie in the sky deal that the Jazz would never offer or the Wizards would never entertain?
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Also, why in the **** would Wizards want Hayward when he is coming up on free agency? It would make very little sense for them to make that move. If they trade Wall, they going to want young talented players still on rookie deals and draft picks. The Jazz have both of those by the boatload.
 
King Cy said:
If you trade Hayward and assets for Wall you are still at square 1. I'd rather have Hayward and Wall and trade a big player package consisting of our younger players.

Exum/Hood/1st round draft pick for Wall. That's a pretty good package. Then actually go out and sign someone like Bazemore who can be a starting 2-guard.

Wall/Mack
Bazemore/Burks
Hayward/Ingles
Favors/Lyles
Gobert/Withey
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I'm down with what you are offering too but teams that trade a big time star on a good contract usually want a star back in the deal. Now, jazz fans are really high on exum and hood but I'm not sure the rest of the league might not be.

I also think that not trading Hayward is risky. Getting wall may help to convince Gordon to stay... But it might not and he might walk anyway and then we don't have hood or hayward. Even if hayward stays its still a risk that he gets massively over paid. Then you add in the risk that hood might be as good as Hayward in a few years anyway.

Basically I would do either trade. I doubt that washington would do either one though.
 
I would rather have hood, exum (both on reasonable contracts), and a pick than hayward (at about 30 million), burke, and a pick.
 
fishonjazz said:
I'm down with what you are offering too but teams that trade a big time star on a good contract usually want a star back in the deal. Now, jazz fans are really high on exum and hood but I'm not sure the rest of the league might not be.

I also think that not trading Hayward is risky. Getting wall may help to convince Gordon to stay... But it might not and he might walk anyway and then we don't have hood or hayward. Even if hayward stays its still a risk that he gets massively over paid. Then you add in the risk that hood might be as good as Hayward in a few years anyway.

Basically I would do either trade. I doubt that washington would do either one though.
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Really?

What star did we get for Dwill?

What star did Denver get for Carmello?

What star did OKC get for Harden?

What star did Minnesota get for Live?

What star did New Orleans get for Paul?

What star did Memphis get for Gadol?

In all cases it was high profile young talent on rookie deals and draft picks.

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fishonjazz said:
I'm down with what you are offering too but teams that trade a big time star on a good contract usually want a star back in the deal. Now, jazz fans are really high on exum and hood but I'm not sure the rest of the league might not be.

I also think that not trading Hayward is risky. Getting wall may help to convince Gordon to stay... But it might not and he might walk anyway and then we don't have hood or hayward. Even if hayward stays its still a risk that he gets massively over paid. Then you add in the risk that hood might be as good as Hayward in a few years anyway.

Basically I would do either trade. I doubt that washington would do either one though.
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The risk in not keeping Hayward is you lose your best player and only marginally upgrade your roster instead of actually going for the chance to be a real contender.

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King Cy said:
The risk in not keeping Hayward is you lose your best player and only marginally upgrade your roster instead of actually going for the chance to be a real contender.

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How would you make the Jazz a real contender by moving forward with Hayward as our best player? I'm curious.
 
Jamezz said:
How would you make the Jazz a real contender by moving forward with Hayward as our best player? I'm curious.
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No, I'd move forward with Wall as our best player and Hayward as our 2nd.

The point is to get as much top talent as possible and sacrifice the depth.
 
King Cy said:
Also, why in the **** would Wizards want Hayward when he is coming up on free agency? It would make very little sense for them to make that move. If they trade Wall, they going to want young talented players still on rookie deals and draft picks. The Jazz have both of those by the boatload.
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That is why the deal becomes a three way with Boston, Boston wants Hayward and believes they can retain him. Wizards get Boston's top 5 pick in the draft.
 
Washington isn't going to trade Wall. They'll finally fire the coach and make sure Wall is happy with whomever replaces him. Try again next year.
 
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