How Does The Year Of The Cakk Taste Now?

[RandyForRubio]

Oh give me a break on being young. Hayward and Favors have played for 6 years now. Over 10,000 minutes each. Minutes matter more than age. Don't know why some of you can't figure that out.

 

[RandyForRubio]

GS didn't lose a must win game to the Lakers. You can't compare the situation.

We lost a must win game to a team resting all of their starters. There are no excuses for that. None.

 

[fishonjazz]

Wait so the FA period is a stupid scape goat but most of our problems relate to getting a starting point guard? Is there a way a team could acquire such a player without drafting or trading for said player?

The player does have to want to come here right?

 

[fishonjazz]

The Sitting out of free agency exacerbated the injury issues we had. If we had signed a guy like Casspi or got Dudley they can both play 3 or 4 and would have been upgrades over ingles, Booker (when he was struggling) and CJ. You will have injuries... Every team does. Depth and players who cover multiple positions protect against that and many of those types of players were available.

Two questions
1. Are we sure the jazz didn't try to get casspi and dudley and they turned us down?

2. How do the stats (production) of casspi and dudley compare to ingles and booker? How about their contracts and age vs Booker and ingles.

 

[fishonjazz]

Also if we were going to give up on Trey so quick and Neto was supposed to play d league and be third pg... Why not go get a Lin or find another similar player?

I agree with this.
I did want the jazz to try to get a pg. I didn't here many jazz fanzers talking about any point guards that were available that they wanted the jazz to get though.

And again, if I'm right those point guards that were available have to want to come here.

 

[NAOS]

I agree with this.
I did want the jazz to try to get a pg. I didn't here many jazz fanzers talking about any point guards that were available that they wanted the jazz to get though.

And again, if I'm right those point guards that were available have to want to come here.

Corey Joseph was in my sig for a while. And I definitely wasn't the only person repping him. There were PGs mentioned, too.

 

[fishonjazz]

Oh give me a break on being young. Hayward and Favors have played for 6 years now. Over 10,000 minutes each. Minutes matter more than age. Don't know why some of you can't figure that out.

Can a team be young and experienced?
I keep hearing game announcers talk about thejazz being one of the youngest teams in the league. Are they wrong?

Do the young players with experience (favors and hayward) have a lot of experience in important games?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Two questions
1. Are we sure the jazz didn't try to get casspi and dudley and they turned us down?

2. How do the stats (production) of casspi and dudley compare to ingles and booker? How about their contracts and age vs Booker and ingles.

1- I don't know but he signed for 2 years at almost $3M per year... we could have doubled the per year amount and years and it would have still been a bargain. My guess is those extra dollars would have made sense to Casspi. Dudley was acquired in a salary dump (which we could have done) and so he had not choice in the matter. He is on a one year $4M deal.

2- Both guys shot over 40% from 3 and were top 15 in RPM for SF for the year. Both guys are better equipped to play small ball 4 than Joe and are just flat out better players. We could have easily kept all of Joe, Booker and one of these guys.

 

[fishonjazz]

Oh give me a break on being young. Hayward and Favors have played for 6 years now. Over 10,000 minutes each. Minutes matter more than age. Don't know why some of you can't figure that out.

Also, if the jazz are one of the youngest teams in the league age-wise (I'm pretty certain this is true) then wouldn't they have to also be one of the least experienced (low amount of seasons and minutes played) teams in the league? I mean everyone is drafting underclassmen these days, not just the jazz right?

 

[fishonjazz]

1- I don't know but he signed for 2 years at almost $3M per year... we could have doubled the per year amount and years and it would have still been a bargain. My guess is those extra dollars would have made sense to Casspi. Dudley was acquired in a salary dump (which we could have done) and so he had not choice in the matter. He is on a one year $4M deal.

2- Both guys shot over 40% from 3 and were top 15 in RPM for SF for the year. Both guys are better equipped to play small ball 4 than Joe and are just flat out better players. We could have easily kept all of Joe, Booker and one of these guys.

I got nothing. Good response

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Corey Joseph was in my sig for a while. And I definitely wasn't the only person repping him. There were PGs mentioned, too.

I was on the Joseph train too.

We should have been in on Beverly... guy signed for 4 years $23M with the final year unguaranteed. I was repping him before FA because I thought he'd get much more than that. If we had offered him 4 years at $33 M with final year unguaranteed would that have been a crazy overpay. Worst case scenario is he uses our offer as leverage against Houston.

I remember Locke talking about him as a trade target at the dealine but thought it would cost at least our first round pick... Jebus man Jebus!

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I got nothing. Good response

It's just frustrating because there were fringe moves to be made that were fairly obvious... Instead it seems DL was more concerned on the Hometennis D League All Stars for our final roster spots. If we went through the season in good health it wouldn't be nearly as big of a complaint... but I would likely still complain.