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It is time to give QS a new contract as he has one year left on his deal. I see that Thibs and Scott Layden are in the TWovles boat, Scott Brooks is taking for the Wiz, Jeff Van Gundy to Houston and either Hony or Luke Walton to the Kings.There are coaches out there that might be au upgrade.
 
I really like Snyder, I think he is a great fit for our team. I just worry about our offense is all, but I dont know if its because of the talent on our roster or if thats how Snyder wants his offense to run
 
Snyder is just getting started. Franchises need to give coaches a chance to build something. There are almost no coaches that can come in and change a team's culture and improve players in just one or two seasons. Sometimes a new coach re-motivates a few players that are unhappy, but I think that effect normally wears off because the players usually have unrealistic ideas of who they are and what role they should have, so they'll typically be unhappy and lose motivation again soon enough.

I think the offensive side of things just wasn't the focus last year. I'm willing to wait and see what he does once he switches more of the focus there.

I want Snyder for a min of five years. If it's clear he sucks at that point then let's make a change. But I've seen enough positives from him so far that I trust him for a few more seasons.
 
Snyder seems very analytical and introspective and as if he likely takes a long, hard look at himself and the job he's done and looks to improve in areas in which he needs improvement. That's a good thing and I hope it to not just be true but to pay dividends.
 
Gameface said:
Snyder is just getting started. Franchises need to give coaches a chance to build something. There are almost no coaches that can come in and change a team's culture and improve players in just one or two seasons. Sometimes a new coach re-motivates a few players that are unhappy, but I think that effect normally wears off because the players usually have unrealistic ideas of who they are and what role they should have, so they'll typically be unhappy and lose motivation again soon enough.

I think the offensive side of things just wasn't the focus last year. I'm willing to wait and see what he does once he switches more of the focus there.

I want Snyder for a min of five years. If it's clear he sucks at that point then let's make a change. But I've seen enough positives from him so far that I trust him for a few more seasons.
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I agree with most of this with the exception that I absolutely hate Snyder's "offense". I also hate his time out clip board plays. They have been nothing short of disastrous with the exception of one Derrick Favors HORNS flash and dive to the rim layup.

Where I'm stuck on QS is if he is trying way too hard to invent new offense or if he just does not have the talent to build anything better. I held/hold the same position on Ty Corbin's offense except I know Corbin did not have the talent and continuously maximized what he had to work with on the offensive end.

I am not certain QS has maximized the pieces he has. He doesn't even bother running a set offense with progression like the Spurs do. I haven't seen a single set play with options. It's basically all freelancing drive and dish. He can't get more out of Favors or Hayward or Ingles or Booker? I doubt that would be the case with an offensive alpha for a coach.
 
franklin said:
Also, I guarantee Ty Corbin would have gotten that squad into the playoffs. That's what he is good at.
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I guess I don't understand why he doesn't just run the San Antonio offense. They had plenty of it the year he was in Atlanta and when he was Austin Spurs coach he was probably told to run it. It seems to be working pretty well down there.
 
Quinn is OK. He's not special. Honeymoon is over.
He has a great bb mind outside of the arena but his in game coaching needs a ton of work. He can't call a play out of a timeout to save his life and his team's free throws both shooting and on defense the rebounding is terrible .

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nateboz said:
Quinn is OK. He's not special. Honeymoon is over.
He has a great bb mind outside of the arena but his in game coaching needs a ton of work. He can't call a play out of a timeout to save his life and his team's free throws both shooting and on defense the rebounding is terrible .

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then the answer is to get better assistants to help players with their shooting?
 
I am a huge fan of Snyder, but when there is an elite coach available with a proven track record of success (that has not hit his ceiling yet) like that of Coach Thibs, you should go after him, that is if you want to win. The Jazz are never in the works of landing a big time athlete, a big time coach, a big time front office executive. Larry Miller is rolling in his grave right now. The Jazz have went from a solid playoff team with over 20 years of making the playoffs, to a farm team for talented athletes for the other 29 organizations in the NBA. DO NOT GET ME WRONG. Quin Snyder is a good coach. We shouldn't expect good because we deserve great. If the fanzz don't set high priorities and expectations for the team, then why should the management? We are contempt with the promise of what will be tomorrow, so they will feed us the headline that we want to hear. The question is, do you think our team has the core to win the Championship in the next 5 years?? That means, beating the Spurs, Cavaliers, Warriors, LAC, ATL, Toronto, etc??? Do we have the core that can one day dominate, beat and smash the face in on those teams in a best of 7 series? The answer is no. So that means that we are not doing enough as an organization, that means that we are not demanding enough as fans, that means that in 5 years from now, we will be here talking about how good we may become. Doesn't matter! If we become good, we will fall short to every great team in the NBA. WE NEED TO BECOME ELITE!!!!! We have tasted scutta for so long we are starting to like the after taste. Demand more, we are the UTAH JAZZ! We went to the finals against Michael Jordan's Bulls that won 72 games in a single season and made the playoffs for over 20 years in a row!
 
I like Snyder, but you have to see who else is available. Currently I don't see any home-run hires I would consider a huge upgrade or potential upgrade over Snyder.

Luke Walton is the only person I would have an intrigue over as far as fresh faces. If Walton denies all jobs this upcoming summer, do you wait on extending Snyder next season and give Walton an interview?

As far a vet coaches up for grabs, I don't really see anyone I like too much.
 
franklin said:
I agree with most of this with the exception that I absolutely hate Snyder's "offense". I also hate his time out clip board plays. They have been nothing short of disastrous with the exception of one Derrick Favors HORNS flash and dive to the rim layup.

Where I'm stuck on QS is if he is trying way too hard to invent new offense or if he just does not have the talent to build anything better. I held/hold the same position on Ty Corbin's offense except I know Corbin did not have the talent and continuously maximized what he had to work with on the offensive end.

I am not certain QS has maximized the pieces he has. He doesn't even bother running a set offense with progression like the Spurs do. I haven't seen a single set play with options. It's basically all freelancing drive and dish. He can't get more out of Favors or Hayward or Ingles or Booker? I doubt that would be the case with an offensive alpha for a coach.
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All of this. But I think it tells us more. That Snyder doesn't understand the nuances of the offensive game well enough to get the most of his players. Evidence is his terrible time out play calling and execution.
 
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