The case for Denzel Valentine

[Sexual Favors]

The shot clock is a whole six seconds longer than the NBA's.

which is a long time. Do you remember how many late clock posessions and violations we had when Burke was at the point in 13-14'?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Not a fan, but it could be worse (like getting Skal or Maker).

 

[Miggs]

which is a long time. Do you remember how many late clock posessions and violations we had when Burke was at the point in 13-14'?

Rofl. Yep, that's a good anecdotal analogy.

 

[David Stern]

Valentine has bust written all over him. I'd prefer the Jazz to swing for the fences with this pick, hopefully its the last time they will be in the lottery for a while.

 

[Boris]

Valentine is my man. I was gonna start this thread a week ago. Here's the thing [MENTION=1573]Chris[/MENTION] he is a shooting guard who can actually play point. I would start him there. His court vision is amazing and he shoots like Jason Kidd in his final seasons. Kidd was not fast either but he has eyes in the back of his head so does Valentine. Elite court vision.

Think is tho I know we can trade a future late first to snag him around 15-17 instead at 12. Or maybe trade down this draft and take a asset and a bad contract back. Makes no sense to waste assets by drafting a guy to high.

 

[kyjazzfan]

Not a Valentine fan. If we're going to go with a more experienced player that we hope can come in and play right away, then I like Brogdon a lot better (I realize I'm more bullish on Brogdon than most). Just think Valentine's defense is really going to limit his effectiveness. And on a team that is so much based on its defense, it's hard to put a young guy on the court that is a complete liability defensively. Valentine sort of sounds like a shorter Joe Ingles to me.

 

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[RandyForRubio]

I would imagine that those who like Hield should like Valentime as well. Both have similar questions of defense, and ability to create for themselves at the next level. Valentime is a much better passer and rebounder in comparison to Hield, and a fairly similar shooter.

Big concern for Valentine is his poor 2pt fg% and low ft rate. He's obviously a bad defender, although with his IQ and size, you can at least see the potential to be better. Not sure he's that much worse of a defensive prospect coming out than Rodney Hood.

I think Valentine's best role is PG coming off the bench, maybe even a 6th man. He is a great shooter, and that should translate. So while not athletic, his ability to shoot + pass should keep defenses honest. He's really one of the best passing prospects, regardless of position, to come out in a long time. I think people undervalue that a lot.

I think Hield is best coming off the bench as well. He shoots very well, but doesn't do much else. Not that much more athletic than Valentine tbh.

I'd probly rather have Valentine.

 

[spycam1]

He seems guaranteed to be a role player off the bench IMO.

He can't defend or create offense even against younger competition. He's a terrible athlete. He can't get to the rim to save his life, and even when he does he can't convert.

There are at least six SGs I'd take ahead of him.

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[Chris]

Big concern for Valentine is his poor 2pt fg% and low ft rate.

He averaged 85% at the line last season.

 

[RandyForRubio]

He seems guaranteed to be a role player off the bench IMO.

He can't defend or create offense even against younger competition. He's a terrible athlete. He can't get to the rim to save his life, and even when he does he can't convert.

There are at least six SGs I'd take ahead of him.

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Yup. I actually think he could be more successful thsn Hield, but I'm not high on either.

I would take Luwawoooo, Baldwin and maybe Furkan over him. Maybe Beasley, but probly not.

 

[RandyForRubio]

He averaged 85% at the line last season.

Yes. That has nothing to do with what I said.