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What would u rather have, 20 million for Barnes, or 30 million for Hayward? Food for thought. I'd take the ladder. With no hesitation.

I agree. Screw barnes.

Hayward will make more than thirty million per year though. In his last year of hours contract he will make nearly 40 million. (At least according to one of the jazzfanz cap experts)
 
I agree. Screw barnes.

Hayward will make more than thirty million per year though. In his last year of hours contract he will make nearly 40 million. (At least according to one of the jazzfanz cap experts)

That's the absolute most he can make, it's not what we have to pay, and most likely we wouldn't pay that much.
 
Whenever I figure I want to understand something that concerns the salary cap and I spend another 30 min trying to find out which rule is determining what happens in this case and which scale is being used to calculate a value, I am being reminded why I'd be miserable if I was a lawyer.
I'd still pay Hayward though and try to find out how far this team can go. It shows so much promise.
 
That's the absolute most he can make, it's not what we have to pay, and most likely we wouldn't pay that much.
What do you mean? We will likely have to give him the 5 year max to keep him from what I have been hearing.

I think you are wrong on this one.
 
Folkels, a couple of questions here for you draft gurus...

Who are the longest players for their positions?

Who are the youngest players for their positions?

If there is a spreadsheet that has that info I think it would be helpful because those two data points have been almost prerequisites to the jazz drafting strategy.
 
I don't think a lot of people understand that fact.
There have been days and days of discussion about maxing Hayward. I have brought up the 32-39 million numbers many many times. ZERO people said that there was a chance he would not get that much.
Why do you think no one ever disputed it?
 
Folkels, a couple of questions here for you draft gurus...

Who are the longest players for their positions?

Who are the youngest players for their positions?

If there is a spreadsheet that has that info I think it would be helpful because those two data points have been almost prerequisites to the jazz drafting strategy.


As far as players who might still be available when we draft: Korkmaz, D Murray, Ellenson, D Davis are the youngest. Just saw that Richardson is almost two years older than Korkmaz. Draft Express probably best site for info you want.
 
What do you mean? We will likely have to give him the 5 year max to keep him from what I have been hearing.

I think you are wrong on this one.

Well when is the new CBA going to come into fruition? If that increases how much guys get paid I can see him and others sign a shorter contract.
 
There have been days and days of discussion about maxing Hayward. I have brought up the 32-39 million numbers many many times. ZERO people said that there was a chance he would not get that much.
Why do you think no one ever disputed it?

Because most people don't understand how contracts work. And I have seen a couple people question it, which is more than zero.

We can offer an extra year compared to other teams. That could give us some room to do a longer, but lower contract. More security for Hayward that way. Idk what he'll do. Would've been easier if DL had signed him to a bigger contract before he hit RFA.
 
There have been days and days of discussion about maxing Hayward. I have brought up the 32-39 million numbers many many times. ZERO people said that there was a chance he would not get that much.
Why do you think no one ever disputed it?

So, because no one on this board thinks he will not take less then max, that automatically means he won't? Let's look at the facts. Does anything Hayward do suggest he cares about total top dollar as long as he's making a good amount? This is a guy who drove a cheap car when he was making millions and eating subway. He isn't a party boy, and as far as I know, I've never heard that he was all that find of the night life. I could be wrong about that, but all I can say is I've never heard anything about him going to clubs or bars. He's now married and has a kid and enjoys video games. Seems like he prefers the simple life with his family and being top dog for the Jazz.

He's smart and knows the Jazz are building something great. He comes off as a down to earth guy who enjoys his family and teammates. I've never heard comments similar to DWill passing out threats of leaving or anything never any Boozer type statements about getting paid. IMO as long as the Jazz treat him fairly and offer a raise, I don't think he would try to completely break the bank. He seems like the guy that would take less to keep his buddies on the team.

Hayward just doesn't have that kind of cocky personality u see with most NBA stars.


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