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George Hill coming to Utah

Stoked said:
Except Indy didn't move up to #12, ATL did.
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Yeah, I get that, but the 12 was used in the package to secure Teague for Indy. So a way to look at it would be the Jazz trading the #12 to ATL for Teague and then trading Teague for Hill. Just seems like it should have cost Indy additional assets since they viewed Teague as an upgrade. Maybe it's more complicated than that.
 
My2Cents said:
Yeah, I get that, but the 12 was used in the package to secure Teague for Indy. So a way to look at it would be the Jazz trading the #12 to ATL for Teague and then trading Teague for Hill. Just seems like it should have cost Indy additional assets since they viewed Teague as an upgrade. Maybe it's more complicated than that.
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I suspect that Jazz wanted George Hill all along and Indy wanted a replacement Vet Point Guard. Jazz are probably the ones that brought Atlanta into the picture. I suspect that they were pursuing Teague last year and probably had the deal close, but decided that Hill better fit in their "moneyball" equation, so they took longer to assure they got him instead. It would be interesting to think that if Indy had beat Toronto, would Hill have been available? I don't think he was at the trade deadline.
 
framer said:
I suspect that Jazz wanted George Hill all along and Indy wanted a replacement Vet Point Guard. Jazz are probably the ones that brought Atlanta into the picture. I suspect that they were pursuing Teague last year and probably had the deal close, but decided that Hill better fit in their "moneyball" equation, so they took longer to assure they got him instead. It would be interesting to think that if Indy had beat Toronto, would Hill have been available? I don't think he was at the trade deadline.
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I think George Hill was vocal (internally, not making public statements) about wanting out of Indy. I believe there was tension between him and Bird. Atlanta didnt want a starting PG, they wanted to get rid of their starting PG to let Schroeder have the lead. I would bet that Atlanta called Utah to pitch taking Hill and us giving them our pick.
 
King Cy said:
I think George Hill was vocal (internally, not making public statements) about wanting out of Indy. I believe there was tension between him and Bird. Atlanta didnt want a starting PG, they wanted to get rid of their starting PG to let Schroeder have the lead. I would bet that Atlanta called Utah to pitch taking Hill and us giving them our pick.
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Interesting re Hill.. cos in yesterday's interview it seemed he really wanted to retire at Indiana.
 
King Cy said:
I think George Hill was vocal (internally, not making public statements) about wanting out of Indy. I believe there was tension between him and Bird. Atlanta didnt want a starting PG, they wanted to get rid of their starting PG to let Schroeder have the lead. I would bet that Atlanta called Utah to pitch taking Hill and us giving them our pick.
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Except wasn't it hinted at that this trade almost went down last year at the deadline? I don't see how the Jazz pick was involved at that point, because it was a serious unknown. I suspect Burks might have been the piece on our end. It seems pretty obvious that the Jazz preferred Hill over Teague as I am sure Atlanta would have preferred sending Teague to the Jazz rather than keeping him in-conference.
 
mellow said:
Locke likes it...

I don't.
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LoPo said:
That is extremely disappointing. #12 could be a good player. So yes, we get a good player. But we get a guy who is expiring after next year. Great plan DL. Great freaking plan.

We just gave up #12 for a bench PG.
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Broncster said:
If it's just#12 for hill that is a bad trade. I assume more picks are involved. Hopefully a future first.

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LoPo said:
How many #12 picks play more than one year in the league? Because George Hill only has one year left on his contract. #12 for George Hill is just plain bad business.
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PG_AB said:
This trade is absolutely asinine, Very disappointed. Trey Burke status. 100% certainty that years down the line this will look foolish.

This move doesn't make Utah a threat to the top teams in the west. This is a move to appease the fanbase, baby steps type ****.

No way is this anywhere near maximum extracted value for the pick either.. This reeks of Dennis Lindsey playing favorites..
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LoPo said:
In Utah, Mack averaged 31mpg, 5.3apg, 44%fg, 12.7ppg

Last season, Hill averaged 34mpg, 3apg, 44%fg, 12.1ppg

So how is Hill this massive upgrade over our current 2nd string? The only thing Hill does better than Mack is shoot the 3 (41% vs 36%). #12 could have been a very good player. I guess we really are afraid of grooming another good player like Lyles. Why?
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lmao
 
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LoPo said:
I like George Hill, but my point still stands if he leaves after one year. Hill is a good player. Always have liked him. We "aren't there yet" so gaining a little bit of momentum then losing him for nothing could be tragic. Hope I'm wrong.

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Man, you didn't even think he was much of an upgrade over Shelvin freakin Mack. We got George Hill for Taureen Prince...I don't care if we only get one year, still a great trade.
 
I did say this after

If we had George on this team last year I think we would have got the 5th seed.
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I do like him as a player but we did over pay for him. Pacers wanted him gone for Teague to come in, I think we could have got more. In the end he is a good player and will really help this team this year. I am 50/50 on if we resign him next year, but this was a really weak draft.
 
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