gregbroncs
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I love this team right now. I am excited about their chances and future. But no way in hell this team beats the 98 Jazz team more than one time out of 10 tries. No matter what rules you are playing under.
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I love this team right now. I am excited about their chances and future. But no way in hell this team beats the 98 Jazz team more than one time out of 10 tries. No matter what rules you are playing under.
nateboz
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I highly disagree. The 98 bench doesn't touch this team. This year's team has height advantage on all positions too. Also younger and quicker. Stockton horny and Malone aren't enough to take it.
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The 98 Lakers were younger, quicker, more athletic. They didn't do well against the 98 Jazz
DL has done a great job so far in building this team. But the next 12 months is the big test. Is he willing to make the big moves necessary to build a championship level team, or is he going to stay the course with the current group and be okay just making the playoffs until our next rebuild.
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Stifle Tower
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There are no "big moves" to be made. Jazz are going to have tax problems once Exum and Hood come off their rookie deals. The big move will likely be deciding which starter (along with Burks) has to go. And there won't be enough salary for any good vets. Of course, that's assuming the Jazz massively overpay for Gordon at $30m/per and extend Rudy for $25m.
I know some will blast me for being negative or a " drama queen." But I challenge you all to do the math. I've been doing it for 2 years now. That's why I've been a trade-Gordon advocate (maybe even the first) and thought Utah should have drafted Murray instead of blowing the lottery pick on Hill.
Enjoy the ride for 2 seasons. Then hard choices have to be made.
I know some will blast me for being negative or a " drama queen." But I challenge you all to do the math. I've been doing it for 2 years now. That's why I've been a trade-Gordon advocate (maybe even the first) and thought Utah should have drafted Murray instead of blowing the lottery pick on Hill.
Enjoy the ride for 2 seasons. Then hard choices have to be made.
That's not the 'narrative' DL wants to tell the league though.. he wants it to say that the Jazz are a loyal team that believes in and never gives up on its player (unless it's absolutely necessary to, ala Trey Burke).
Hence DL will never trade Hayward, or Burks, or Favors, etc, ... so far it is working with Joe Johnson our biggest FA signing in a long while.
If we play well next season with this team I bet Hill will want to re-sign, Hayward would want to re-sign, etc..
Exactly what I was referencing. Does DL continue on the path he's been on, re-sign Hayward to a ridiculous contract that puts us in cap hell, and assures that we will never be more than a playoff team.... OR does he make a preemptive strike on the situation, move Hayward while he's at the peak of his value, and get a pick/young player that might be a star piece and could eventually bring the bulk of our young core to a championship. He had a golden oppurtunity at the draft for that necessary preemptive strike and he passed it by. I agree completely with you.
Coach Ellis
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You guys are all saying the same thing, and it still sounds as dumb as it did before the draft. There wasn't a star to be had by trading Hayward. The Jazz are committed to keeping him. Those who don't like it will just have to get used to the idea. Same narrative that a collection of posters had when he signed his max contract back in 2014. . . now we all wish they'd signed him to a longer contract.
More like the whole board... LOL
It's not dumb. I'm used to the idea, I know the Jazz will keep him because that's what they do. But I'll still speak out against it because it's a massive mistake. I want this team to win championships. I don't care about just getting to the playoffs anymore. I've seen dozens of playoff trips in my lifetime. Getting there means nothing. Winning it all does. You won't win it all by paying a third or fourth best player on a championship level team max money when you don't have that #1 or #2 guy. You just won't. Period. This team won't win a title with Hayward on the max. It won't happen.