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Can/Will Lyles make Favors expendable?

I would be shocked if lyles is ever as good a player as Dfav. If lyles does ever get to that level then that is an awesome situation.
 
Lyles and Trey Burke in one sentence? THat's foul...
Lyles is very streaky though. His 3 point range isn't reliable yet. I'm hoping he getts there though.
 
green said:
Lyles is irrelevant to Favors' future in Utah. Here is why:

You can only max three players under the current CBA.

Hayward is max player #1.

The Jazz like Gobert more than Favors. Gobert might be max player #2.

So, who is #3? Is it Favors?

Does a max three of Favors, Hayward and Gobert win you a title?

Nope.

So, if you are sold on Gobert, like Utah is, and you are sold on Hayward, like Utah obviously is, then Favors doesn't have a future here.

The math is pretty simple.

Utah will try to move Favors and Hood for a max wing player and pray like crazy that Exum takes some huge steps forward.
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And you think the Jazz are higher on Gobert than Favors why? I have seen no evidence of that, so please supply some.
 
gregbroncs said:
And you think the Jazz are higher on Gobert than Favors why? I have seen no evidence of that, so please supply some.
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Just things I've heard at Best Buy. I like Favors better but I was told that Utah loves Gobert's defense and they believe he and Exum can neutralize GS-type teams with their defense. A little birdy told me that they'd look to move Favors and Hood for a player that makes them a title contender next summer if they can resign Hayward. If Hayward leaves, they'd move those two for picks.

It's a message board so take it for what it's worth.
 
Favors and Gobert together is what makes this team special and basically peerless on the defensive end. I understand the importance of spreading the floor, but everyone should understand the importance of those two paired together.

On that note, I am not that stoked or hopeful for Exum. I frankly don't give a rat's *** about quick guards that aren't good shooters, especially since in this case, it makes it especially hard to play Favors and Gobert together on offense. George Hill's game is going to age very nicely and the fit makes more sense.

I am not advocating any moves soon, especially since we have to see how everything comes together. But Exum has to come a LONG way for me to be excited.
 
green said:
I agree. It wouldn't shock me if Gobert/Favors don't see the floor together very much.
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People keep saying this about Favors/Gobert, but the Hood/Hayward/Favors/Gobert lineup last year had the 6th best net rating in the entire NBA.
 
Long term, we keep Gobert or Favors but not both. I feel like our playoff experience will tell us more. I just don't see them playing a ton together due to "death lineups".

Answer me this guys. Will Favors eventually be an NBA center due to the "sizing down" of playoff basketball? Or is he only effective at PF now and the next 5 years?

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LoPo said:
Long term, we keep Gobert or Favors but not both. I feel like our playoff experience will tell us more. I just don't see them playing a ton together due to "death lineups".

Answer me this guys. Will Favors eventually be an NBA center due to the "sizing down" of playoff basketball? Or is he only effective at PF now and the next 5 years?

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Gobert is a must keep imo. He is the staple of our defense, the guy that makes everything easier. He's a rare talent. The Jazz were looking for a rim protector like Gobert for 20 years give or take. If I'm doing everything possible to keep just one player on this roster, it's him I'm keeping.

Favors is a PF who can play C against "death lineups".Everything is about the current team you're facing, the matchup. The NBA is becoming less and less position oriented.
 
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