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Hayward may be crunched by this year's spending

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framer

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For those worried about Heyward running away next year, here is some perspective:

The excessive spending this summer will have an impact with the excellent free-agent class next summer.

The field of 27 teams with $20 million-plus in cap space this past summer could be sliced in half by the time next July rolls around.

Even with the cap rising from $94 million to a projected $102 million, early projections forecast only 12 teams having $15 million-plus in cap room.

With unrestricted free agents LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Steph Curry, Russell Westbrook, Chris Paul, Blake Griffin, Gordon Hayward, Kyle Lowry, Paul Millsap, Serge Ibaka, JJ Redick and Derrick Rose set to hit the open market, free agents could be remaining with their own teams.
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https://sports.yahoo.com/news/front-office-insider-the-impact-of-this-free-agent-season-160412010.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma

Keep this in mind that only about 12 teams can offer even $15 million on a free agent contract, and there are far more than 12 good free agents available. Tell me again how someone is going to sign George Hill away from us at $16 million. The Jazz are in a really good spot to keep their players if they want to. In fact, you will see most free agents, currently in a good situation, resign with their current teams because the era of leaguewide capspace is already over. Thanks Mozgov!
 
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Haha this is great news. I know teams had tons of cap space with the cap going up, and another jump is expected, but my god there were actual scrubs getting big deals. I just don't get it? How the hell does Solomon hill get more then G. Hill. I forget who signed Solomon, but I think he got 13 million a year. U mean to tell me a gm was so worried he couldn't sign him that he had to ridiculously over spend. I'm sure there were younger players u could've signed for less that could've given u more production. JJ anyone?
 
framer said:
For those worried about Heyward running away next year, here is some perspective:

The excessive spending this summer will have an impact with the excellent free-agent class next summer.



https://sports.yahoo.com/news/front-office-insider-the-impact-of-this-free-agent-season-160412010.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma

Keep this in mind that only about 12 teams can offer even $15 million on a free agent contract, and there are far more than 12 good free agents available. Tell me again how someone is going to sign George Hill away from us at $16 million. The Jazz are in a really good spot to keep their players if they want to. In fact, you will see most free agents, currently in a good situation, resign with their current teams because the era of leaguewide capspace is already over. Thanks Mozgov!
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How many teams can offer a max? I assume it would be much less than the 12 that can offer $15 million.
 
King Cy said:
Boston has cap-space, Boston will offer Hayward a max contract.
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Boston can offer 1 max. Hayward plus Horford plus Smart is not a better situation that what he has now, nor does it make Boston anywhere close to a contender. If Boston is actually looking to shoot the moon, they will be looking further upriver than Hayward. Hayward to Boston because of a coach Hayward played 2 years for is kind of ridiculous.
 
I think you should change the title to Hill may be crunched, there is no doubt Hayward is getting the max.
 
MDAV28 said:
How many teams can offer a max? I assume it would be much less than the 12 that can offer $15 million.
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Dallas and Portland are out, which is good. Even some of the teams that technically have money available, really don't. OKC could have 73 million available, but they would have to lose Westbrook, Steven Adams, and Olidapo.
 
Jazz4ever said:
I think you should change the title to Hill may be crunched, there is no doubt Hayward is getting the max.
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Hayward is not likely to have the opportunity match the money anywhere else like he does with the Jazz. He isn't going to Durrant himself into a better situation. I think a lot of people were worried that An attractive option was going to offer the max. He may get one or the other, but not both with anyone else but the Jazz.
 
It's funny that everybody set themselves up to be studs as free agents in 2017 and then 2016 is the year that the owners spend like drunken sailors.
 
Well... What happens is half those guys resign with their own teams so those teams don't need cap space to sign their own guys. Teams can clear cap space pretty easily if they want to... The picture now is different than the picture will be in 11 months.

That said Hayward will get the 4 year max from someone or a close to 5 year max from us. He may relent in some of the raises on a five year deal. Hill may find it a little tough sledding because he will want starter money and there are so few teams without a pg or pg prospect plus the fact that 4 stud pg prospects will be coming through the draft.

I think we are set up well to retain Hayward and hill if we don't get cheap.
 
Ellis269 said:
It's funny that everybody set themselves up to be studs as free agents in 2017 and then 2016 is the year that the owners spend like drunken sailors.
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The max guys will still do much better by waiting the year though.
 
framer said:
Boston can offer 1 max. Hayward plus Horford plus Smart is not a better situation that what he has now, nor does it make Boston anywhere close to a contender. If Boston is actually looking to shoot the moon, they will be looking further upriver than Hayward. Hayward to Boston because of a coach Hayward played 2 years for is kind of ridiculous.
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You're right, Hayward being one of the best players in the league is a much better reason.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Well... What happens is half those guys resign with their own teams so those teams don't need cap space to sign their own guys. Teams can clear cap space pretty easily if they want to... The picture now is different than the picture will be in 11 months.

That said Hayward will get the 4 year max from someone or a close to 5 year max from us. He may relent in some of the raises on a five year deal. Hill may find it a little tough sledding because he will want starter money and there are so few teams without a pg or pg prospect plus the fact that 4 stud pg prospects will be coming through the draft.

I think we are set up well to retain Hayward and hill if we don't get cheap.
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Yes, but the 12 "with cap space" often includes teams with free agents or with cap holds. If those teams resign their free agents, it takes a free agent off the market, but it also takes them out of the running for another free agent. Additionally, it will be harder to "create cap space" because only 12 teams can possibly absorb more than 12 million in bad contracts.
 
NUMBERICA said:
You're right, Hayward being one of the best players in the league is a much better reason.
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Understood, but Hayward doesn't move the needle that far for them by himself. They desperately need someone like Westbrook. They may even get Westbrook according to rumors. Westbrook to Boston makes Hayward a GREAT fit there, but then they no longer have the money for Hayward.
 
I think a lot depends on how things turn out this season as to what Hayward will do. Another underachieving year and he probably will leave.
 
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