All-Time NBA Draft Round 2: Hekate vs. Thee jazz fan

[Elizah Huge]

Team Hekate:

PG - Magic Johnson
SG - Clyde Drexler / Manu Ginobili / Sidney Moncrief
SF - Paul Pierce / Allan Houston
PF - Kevin Garnett / Bernard King
C - Dwight Howard / Chris Bosh

Team Thee jazz fan:

PG - John Stockton / Mark Price
SG - Ray Allen / Paul George
SF - Drazen Petrovic / Alex English
PF - Shawn Marion / Larry Nance
C - Wilt Chamberlain / Bill Laimbeer

Hekate's Case:

The first thing I wanted to establish on my team was positionless basketball on the offensive end. Apart from Magic Johnson, who will cause match-up problems whichever position he plays, Drexler, Pierce and Manu are all accomplished ball-handlers and passers. Their ability to create for others as well as for themselves will confuse lots of defenses. Add to that KG who is another great passer and there will be lots of fun basketball happening.

I will have 3 big-man rotation most of the time with Garnett-Howard-Bosh but I can put King at 4 whenever I need to go small, I can even put Magic at 5 if teams want to go ultra-small against me.

I have two defensive anchors on the low post who are also great PnR defenders. And Let's not forget Chris Bosh is a capable PnR defender as well. I have a guy like Sidney Moncrief, who won Defensive Player of the Year award 2 times to slow down anyone.

Howard

3× NBA Defensive Player of the Year (2009–2011)
4× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2009–2012)
NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2008)

Garnett

NBA Defensive Player of the Year (2008)
9× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2000–2005, 2008, 2009, 2011)
3× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2006, 2007, 2012)

Thee jazz fan's Case:

My team can beat and hurt Hekates team from all directions. This is old school and new school rolled into one team. We create matchup issues at all positions. I can play in the half court or run and gun while also playing suffocating defense, and spread the floor and thanks to the philosophies of Laimbeer it won't just be Pierce vs Drazen, or Clyde vs Allen. There will be no easy layups.

Though they didn't record blocks as a stat in Wilts day he was a great shot blocker, even blocking consecutive skyhooks from Kareem. And was a great lane clogger.

Here is how each player fits scheme wise.

https://youtu.be/z2TVydtglY8 (Wilt Chamberlain)
https://youtu.be/myMvojT6zIc (John Stockton)

This team is built around the ultimate two man game. Wilt is the most dominant post player to play the game. Can pass(lead the league in assists one year.) reliable 10 ft fadeaway and can score on double teams in the post at will. Stockton can dominate a game with out ever shooting the ball. Greatest pure pg ever.

Stockton will make it his life's mission to create easy shots for the most dominant offensive player ever. If the defense tries to deny Wilt the ball, Stockton will simply thread the needle making passes that simply seem impossible.

https://youtu.be/DZuouhUqcf8 (Ray Allen)
https://youtu.be/UUacXRjsSTA (Drazen Petrovic )

Stockton and Wilt Will run a lot of pick'n roll. This will create open looks for two of the most feared shooters of all time. If Hekate doesn't double or triple team Wilt, he'll drop 70pts like its nothing. If Hekate sends help, Wilt will find the open man for three. Damned if u do, damned if u don't.

https://youtu.be/HhadNj-TTGg (Shawn Marion)
In this two man game, and spread the court system he is perfect to play next to Wilt as so much attention will be put into stopping the two man game and the spread out shooting of Drazen and Ray. This leaves oppertunities for Marion's Slashing thanks to the skillful passing of both Wilt and Stockton. With certain lineups Marion will guard and hound Magic to death. Marion will make great hustle plays filling the stat sheet with out ever having a play run for him all game.

My bench.

Mark Price. (Elite shooter. Great at getting to the hoop in his best year averaged 10 assists)
Alex English. (All time leader in scoring in the 80's deadly mid range game. Long and athletic good defender)
Paul George (can play 4 positions, and shoot great defender using length and athleticism)
Larry Nance (Great two way player. Long and athletic great shot blocker at Pf good shooter from 20 ft out. Great finisher with dunks and layups)
Bill Laimbeer. (Heart and soul of the team, and gives the team it's defensive identity)

My bench is designed to score score, defend defend defend. And very athletic at most positions. With efficient scoring and playmaking.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Hmm I think Hekate has the advantage at 4 positions by a decent amount.

Magic>Stockton
Clyde>Ray
Pierce>>Petrovic and his .300 3pt shooting in playoff games. Still think you would have been much better off starting George. He is a good shooter (better 3 pt shooter in the playoffs than Petrovic) and a far superior defender and playmaker.
KD>>Marion
Howard<<<Wilt

Wilt is really good player and he does have decent spacing around him on offense but not enough to overcome a better all-around team. Howard wont stop Wilt but prime Howard was a really good defender and strong enough to hold his position.

 

[Siro]

While Hekate has better personnel, I really like the synergy of Thee's team.

 

[fishonjazz]

While Hekate has better personnel, I really like the synergy of Thee's team.

I agree... I went with the more talented team instead of the better chemistry team though.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

I agree... I went with the more talented team instead of the better chemistry team though.

I'll take team chemistry and fit over talent, and it's not like my team is devoid of talent. Even Orlando Hward isn't strong enough to even consider handling Wilt.

Magic is better then Stockton only due to size. Stockton is the better pure pg and playmaker.

In regards to Allen and Drazen vs Drexler, they can't guard either Drazen or Allen, they are to quick for the bigger slower wings for Hekate. My whole premis is to spread the floor with everything working through Wilt in the middle. Wilt is a great passer. He'll either find open three's for Allen or Drazen or layups for the streaking matrix down the lane. My team will be more efficient on offense. Either Wilt is going to score or he will find a high % shot for someone else. It's that simple.

 

[fishonjazz]

I'll take team chemistry and fit over talent, and it's not like my team is devoid of talent. Even Orlando Hward isn't strong enough to even consider handling Wilt.

Magic is better then Stockton only due to size. Stockton is the better pure pg and playmaker.

In regards to Allen and Drazen vs Drexler, they can't guard either Drazen or Allen, they are to quick for the bigger slower wings for Hekate. My whole premis is to spread the floor with everything working through Wilt in the middle. Wilt is a great passer. He'll either find open three's for Allen or Drazen or layups for the streaking matrix down the lane. My team will be more efficient on offense. Either Wilt is going to score or he will find a high % shot for someone else. It's that simple.

I have to admit that part of what made my decision is all the campaigning you do. It rubs me the wrong way.
Then, God forbid someone ever votes for anyone besides you and you give them a hard time about it.
It's not a good look.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

I have to admit that part of what made my decision is all the campaigning you do. It rubs me the wrong way.
Then, God forbid someone ever votes for anyone besides you and you give them a hard time about it.
It's not a good look.

Lol. I'm playing the game and making the case for my team. Isn't that what I'm supposed to do?? I get excited and passionate about the draft and my team. Would u rather I not do the best team writeup I can and be completely silent and hope the voters see the exact vision for my team that I have?

The only two people I've given a hard time to is hack and TPP because they voted against me not because they liked Addi's more over mine, but simply for spite. Hell! Hack even said he didn't even look at the teams. When did I ever give a hard time to anyone else for voting against mine? I'm not a fan of hack at all and even last year I remember voting for one of his teams.

Not sure what I did to upset the great fish?


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[Hekate]

I'll take team chemistry and fit over talent, and it's not like my team is devoid of talent. Even Orlando Hward isn't strong enough to even consider handling Wilt.

Magic is better then Stockton only due to size. Stockton is the better pure pg and playmaker.

In regards to Allen and Drazen vs Drexler, they can't guard either Drazen or Allen, they are to quick for the bigger slower wings for Hekate. My whole premis is to spread the floor with everything working through Wilt in the middle. Wilt is a great passer. He'll either find open three's for Allen or Drazen or layups for the streaking matrix down the lane. My team will be more efficient on offense. Either Wilt is going to score or he will find a high % shot for someone else. It's that simple.

And It's not like my team is devoid of chemistry, I have 4 players in my starting line-up that are plus ball-handlers and passers. I have length advantage and Johnson, Drexler, Pierce and Garnett can all post-up smaller players and take advantage of the mismatch.

Ps. Drexler ain't slow.

 

[fishonjazz]

Lol. I'm playing the game and making the case for my team. Isn't that what I'm supposed to do?? I get excited and passionate about the draft and my team. Would u rather I not do the best team writeup I can and be completely silent and hope the voters see the exact vision for my team that I have?

The only two people I've given a hard time to is hack and TPP because they voted against me not because they liked Addi's more over mine, but simply for spite. Hell! Hack even said he didn't even look at the teams. When did I ever give a hard time to anyone else for voting against mine? I'm not a fan of hack at all and even last year I remember voting for one of his teams.

Not sure what I did to upset the great fish?


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Sorry man. My bad

 

[NUMBERICA]

There's team is a very intriguing build. Shawn Marion and Bill Laimbeer are very savvy picks (though in a competition like these, Marion isn't really up to par). But Hekate takes this (though not as easily as it would appear).