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Lets say Hayward walks.. How can they best damage control it?

Game6Conley

Game6Conley

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Lets also presume a few more things;

-Rudy gets a 5-year extension signed after the Olympics.

-The Jazz have a successful(injury-free) but unspectacular(In the grand scheme of the NBA) season, and lose in the 1st round.

-George Hill puts up George Hill type of stats.

-Exum shows promise/progress but it's not glaringly obvious that he's ready to lead the squad.

-Hood continues on his upward trajectory (Same for Lyles but it's not much of a consequence to this).

-Snyder proves to be worth every penny they're paying him.




Now Hayward's obviously a key cog, but I'm of the opinion that him walking wouldn't be a crippling blow to all of the momentum the FO has built.. If the right reactionary moves are made.. One might say Joe Johnson on a 2 year deal is a bit of a hedge for if this happens. With Hood, Johnson, Burks 2 first rd picks and of course the cap space left by Hayward it's certainly plausible they could field a playoff worthy backcourt with the obvious playoff worthy frontcourt thats in place.

That cap space must be spent immediately to entice Favors not to walk the next summer.. There's no hitting the breaks now, this is how the game is set for Utah in the next 2 seasons. Thats why this is threadworthy in my mind.

I have a plan, specifically one player they should offer the max, that I kinda think is the best course of action. I wanna hear what y'all think first though.
 
If Hayward walks, I am confident enough in DL that he will know that Hayward is leaning towards walking and ends up trading him. The move will NOT be reactionary but preemptive.
 
VINYLONE said:
If Hayward walks, I am confident enough in DL that he will know that Hayward is leaning towards walking and ends up trading him. The move will NOT be reactionary but preemptive.
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I tend to agree... but time is ticking. Big time.
 
VINYLONE said:
If Hayward walks, I am confident enough in DL that he will know that Hayward is leaning towards walking and ends up trading him. The move will NOT be reactionary but preemptive.
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So you think that if the team is on track to make the playoffs, D Lindsey will still pull the trigger on a Hayward deal to ensure his value is with the Jazz next season in some form?

That doesn't seem to add up if ya ask me. This is also going to be a difficult year to try and pry top draft picks in return and with the mix of old and new salary cap contracts, I'd have to say these aren't ideal conditions to extract value..

Jazz fans will be bloodthirsty for a playoff spot, I say given those circumstances the FO will let the team ride out, let the chips fall where they may, and then make decisions/tweaks in the offseason.
 
VINYLONE said:
If Hayward walks, I am confident enough in DL that he will know that Hayward is leaning towards walking and ends up trading him. The move will NOT be reactionary but preemptive.
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I really doubt this will happen. I don't think there's any way DL is gonna know what Hayward will do. In fact, Hayward seems like a pretty reasonable guy, and I assume he still doesn't have any idea what he will do. I'm sure he'll wait until that time comes to figure it out and make the best decision for himself.

I don't think DL is gonna trade the best player on the team on a hunch because this the best Jazz team on paper since DWill was on the team.

In response to the OP, it'd be a bummer if Hayward walked, but I don't think it'd too bad considering how the team is structured. They haven't gone all-in to quickly contend, or been uber patient in a massive rebuilding process (maybe they've kinda done this a little in the past few years). I think once this season has finished they'll evaluate things and decide which way to move - either a promising season leads them to be more aggressive and try more win now moves, or a disappointing season might cause them to pump the *brakes a little, maintain flexibility, and focus on building a stronger foundation for their team to be competitive.

So, in short, I don't think it will be the end of the world if Hayward left because of the way the team is constructed. The strength of its construction imo is its ability to adapt to whatever situation comes its way. Sure, the Jazz will be worse without Hayward, but the organization shouldn't go very far backwards if they do at all.
 
I've come to the conclusion that the top priority move is to roll out the red carpets for (future HOF'er) Chris Paul on a 1-2 year max deal with a player option. Blake Griffin can opt out, which means Paul will be in play, looking for something less stale.. Utah can offer a talent laden team thats tailor-made for his style of play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5uCYJS-PTw

He'd be able to bring out the best in some of our players immediately he played his best ball(robbed of the MVP) next to Tyson Chandler and Rudy's better, he'd make it much easier for Hood to transition into the #1 scoring option. He'd also be great at feeding Favors(and keeping him around) and obviously he's a perfect mentor for Exum..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmAasJcOssk


CP3's got a legit chance to lead the troops deep into the playoffs immediately, I really think the squad would be live as ****... I'm not sure if he's the type to concede and take a pay cut to form some super team either, he's a HOF'er with 0 championships, this move makes basketball sense, he can lead this squad deep into the playoffs, I'm certain of it. This is a great spot for his last hurrah as a max player.

CP3 - Burks - Hood - Favors - Gobert
Exum - 1st rd pick/(FA or Hill)- Johnson - Lyles - Withey re-signed/backup C/Diaw's option picked up/anything but Pleiss/1st rd pick?
Neto and they've got plenty of 2nd rd picks and vet minimum options to fill in the rest..

A wing defender would be necessary, but theres many avenues they could go for that.

They could also dump a salary or 2 and go after another big name.. It's plausible.. People will hate this idea because it's not the Jazz team they envision, this is a part of staying flexible though.

This leaves room for Favors to get market-value 2 summers from now, and then they can match any deals on Hood and Exum to go over the cap..
 
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DownUnder said:
Isn't he a little too ball dominant for the style of play Q is running ?
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Chris Paul would be a monster in this system, his anticipation would constantly be on display.. He'd spearhead the defense and infuse a junk yard dog attitude that the team already has upfront..

Paul being ball dominant is inconsequential, there's no one on the court who deserves to have the ball more than him -- he gets players the ball in positions to succeed.

It's about countering Golden State, we've got the frontcourt in place to cause them issues already.. Minus Hayward, CP3 is how the backcourt can hang...

This is a good spot for him to ease up a bit, and lengthen his prime, instead of doing everything like the Clippers ask of him. Favors isn't Blake Griffin but he's damn good. Hood's 3pt shooting is the key. Burks is as good of a slasher as you could ask for, who also can pass and shoot, He and Hood both are capable of near 20ppg IMO. The 3 of them would be rather interchangeable defensively.


I assure you, you can look at ****loads of different scenarios but this is the best. This still leaves wiggle room for the FO to make great value signings to fill out the roster and they can continue to look for gems in the draft without much of a need in mind (one of the 1st rd picks should be a wing of some sort)
 
If Haywards walks, then you blow it up and start over again...sort of.

You trade Favors for the best you can get. You build around Exum and Gobert and maybe Hood. UNLESS Exum blows up. Then Exum steps into Hayward's role.

BUT, if Exum blew up, Hayward wouldn't leave.

If we end up 4 or 5, Hayward isn't going anywhere. Especially if Exum shows glimpses of an all star future.
 
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