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remember when our offense looked like this?

jope said:
03-04 --- Relative oRtg = -1.0

Andrei Kirilenko
Matt Harpring
Carlos Arroyo
DeShawn Stevenson
Greg Ostertag
Raja Bell
Gordan Giricek
Jarron Collins
Tom Gugliotta


this year's team Relative oRtg = -0.7

that system tho
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Even more comical you only listed the players that make your argument looker better while we still had Okur and Boozer on those teams. And AK-47 was a super talented player in those years and an All-Star. Poor Jerry Sloan he had to figure out how to use a player like AK, must have been so hard.
 
jope said:
yes because our talent level this year, even at the end of the bench, is 10x that roster, and they are relatively the same offensively. you proved my point. and its not comparing oRtg from separate eras, its comparing how that teams offense compared to the rest of the league that year. it is normalized data.
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It isnt though....

Depth is negated when the whole team is injured.... Which is why it's beyond stupid to pull up the rating this early and start comparing it to previous years.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
It isnt though....

Depth is negated when the whole team is injured.... Which is why it's beyond stupid to pull up the rating this early and start comparing it to previous years.
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joe johnson, our 7th or 8th man, is likely better than everyone minus AK on that 03-04 team.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I'm officially done arguing in this thread. I think I've made my point clear enough.
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yep, you think snyder would do better than sloan, IE take the #1 offense and make it a SUPER #1 offense, even though he's never made even an above average offense one time, got it.

Snyder's offense is a joke, considering his reputation as some offensive mastermind, and it is empirically supported. I honestly don't even know how you can argue it. every team has injuries, he just doesnt know how to deal with it when it happens.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Even more comical you only listed the players that make your argument looker better while we still had Okur and Boozer on those teams. And AK-47 was a super talented player in those years and an All-Star. Poor Jerry Sloan he had to figure out how to use a player like AK, must have been so hard.
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LMFAO. Failblog here we come.
 
Snyder offense is only jump shots or isolation play.....no fastbreaks, no post-ups, no alley-oops, no easy buckets!

He was labeled as a offensive mastermind...time to live up to the hype and show some flexibility.

The Jazz don't have an offensive identity.
 
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