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Utah's holding opponents to 92.8 ppg

Eminence said:
#4 at 101.5 per 100. Behind Clippers, Memphis, Atlanta.
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These are good defensive teams but when Favors gets healthy the Jazz are in a class of their own. Rudy is the best defensive big in the league, which is worth a ton... 2nd best defense is the Clips for my $.

Utah should finish 1st in opp PPG this year though, somewhere between 94.7 - 96.8
 
PG_AB said:
These are good defensive teams but when Favors gets healthy the Jazz are in a class of their own. Rudy is the best defensive big in the league, which is worth a ton... 2nd best defense is the Clips for my $.

Utah should finish 1st in opp PPG this year though, somewhere between 94.7 - 96.8
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Agreed with you that Utah's in a class of their own when healthy. I think I expect the Hawks to wind up #2 (despite what they showed us last night overall).
 
A couple more interesting stats..... Before last nights game, opponents attempt 8% less shots in the paint (the most efficient spot on the floor to score from) when gobert is on the court vs when he is not. After last nights game, when atlanta looked absolutely scared of gobert, im guessing that number is now higher.

George hill has more steals than turnovers. I wonder if he is the only starting point guard in the league to do that.
 
Darkwing Duck said:
Why would anyone continuously use PPG as a useful stat?
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For one - they play games not 100 possession matches.. .. .2nd - I firmly believe that a trait of great modern NBA teams is having nearly immaculate records when holding teams under 100ppg.



There was some magic # near 100 points last year that if the Jazz held the opposing team under they were like 40-5 or something like that IIRC?? Pretty sure.


I like to keep track of the opponents scoring pace vs a 100pt pace. I don't really care about the pace per possession as much, as long as the opposing team isnt' on pace for 100 it's Jazz basketball as far as im concerned. I figure if they can keep a team to that pace and then cause a scoreless streak for a few minutes they can really constrict the game further. Which is what we saw last night.

92.8 would be the lowest OPPG since the 13-14 season.
 
PG_AB said:
For one - they play games not 100 possession matches.. .. .2nd - I firmly believe that a trait of great modern NBA teams is having nearly immaculate records when holding teams under 100ppg.



There was some magic # near 100 points last year that if the Jazz held the opposing team under they were like 40-5 or something like that IIRC?? Pretty sure.


I like to keep track of the opponents scoring pace vs a 100pt pace. I don't really care about the pace per possession as much, as long as the opposing team isnt' on pace for 100 it's Jazz basketball as far as im concerned. I figure if they can keep a team to that pace and then cause a scoreless streak for a few minutes they can really constrict the game further. Which is what we saw last night.

92.8 would be the lowest OPPG since the 13-14 season.
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That's good reasoning for seeing whether the Jazz are keeping to their own "identity." I'm not sure it works as well for comparison against other teams in the league.

Even points per/100 may not be totally capture the team's defensive "quality." There are things a team can do (like abandon offensive rebounding in favor of stopping transition offense, for example) that can make the points per/100 a bit misleading in my view (measuring "philosophy" partly, and not just overall "quality"). So ultimately any good coach is going to worry more about total point differential (or wins) than making sure that the defense is best on PPG or PP/100.

That said, yeah, the Jazz defense seems to be working great. Hope Favors is able to make it back to his old self.
 
PG_AB said:
For one - they play games not 100 possession matches.. .. .2nd - I firmly believe that a trait of great modern NBA teams is having nearly immaculate records when holding teams under 100ppg.


There was some magic # near 100 points last year that if the Jazz held the opposing team under they were like 40-5 or something like that IIRC?? Pretty sure.


I like to keep track of the opponents scoring pace vs a 100pt pace. I don't really care about the pace per possession as much, as long as the opposing team isnt' on pace for 100 it's Jazz basketball as far as im concerned. I figure if they can keep a team to that pace and then cause a scoreless streak for a few minutes they can really constrict the game further. Which is what we saw last night.

92.8 would be the lowest OPPG since the 13-14 season.
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Hurting the offense to help the defense is a net wash of zero. Making your defense better by playing slower on offense has no ACTUAL bearing on whether or not you're actually good at defense.
 
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