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GT: Goliath @ David Thursday Dec 8, Vivint Smart Home Arena 7:00 PM MT

Why? You want two losses by them at home? The game was nevefr in question and they coasted thru the game. The GSW don't fear the Jazz even though many jazz fans think they do. You have no shot at winning a playoff series so let me ask you this is it better to make the playoffs and maybe win 1 game or better to miss and get a lottery pick?

You might recall that we almost beat them last year with a far weaker team, with a healthy Burks who tore them up -- I thought we did but maybe that was the year before. In any case, they are weaker this year. They have little rim protection. Teams with strong bigs like ours with a healthy Gobert and Favors will give them trouble, plus we have one of league's best perimeter defenders now in Hill. If we are 100 percent healthy when we play them, we will be a tough matchup for them.
 
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Yup, because they all took the easy path. Stockton totally joined the Bulls in his prime and Malone the Lakers in his.

But that's not the argument, you're deflecting. You said that Durant has failed his entire career (up til now of course). If you're going to say that, then your logic implies that Stockton and Malone were also failures.
 
But that's not the argument, you're deflecting. You said that Durant has failed his entire career (up til now of course). If you're going to say that, then your logic implies that Stockton and Malone were also failures.

I shouldn't have said entire. But yes he failed. he had Mr. Triple Double on his team and they failed. So he jumped ship to a team that he could ride to a chip.

Stockton and Malone did fail. They failed to win a championship but they responded far differently than Durant did.
 
I shouldn't have said entire. But yes he failed. he had Mr. Triple Double on his team and they failed. So he jumped ship to a team that he could ride to a chip.

Stockton and Malone did fail. They failed to win a championship but they responded far differently than Durant did.

So any player that hasn't won a championship has failed? That's a ridiculous metric. Winning championships are hard. Getting a team to the finals is hard. Hell, winning a playoff series is hard. Just because you don't win a championship doesn't mean you're a failure as a player. That's just asinine, and honestly, it's an incredibly stupid hot take ala Skip Bayless.
 
Amazes me how many are down on Durant for changing teams and going to a good situation. So, no one has ever left one job for a better job? How dare you? Where is your loyalty? You were just cherry picking, why didn't you take a worse spot instead of a better one?
 
Amazes me how many are down on Durant for changing teams and going to a good situation. So, no one has ever left one job for a better job? How dare you? Where is your loyalty? You were just cherry picking, why didn't you take a worse spot instead of a better one?

Yeah, we should encourage every star to go to Golden State, it's the best job. When can we trade Gobert and Hayward there? I want them to have the best job.
 
I'm aware of the cap situation. What's your proposed trade?

Warriors 1st rounder would be all I would give up, along with Withey, to make the trade happen. I'd only do it if we were playing super well heading into the trade deadline.
 
Warriors 1st rounder would be all I would give up, along with Withey, to make the trade happen. I'd only do it if we were playing super well heading into the trade deadline.

I'm pretty torn. I can talk myself into the belief that Bogut is the type of guy that could push us deeper into (beyond?) the second round. But then I snap back and feel homerish. A late-first rounder has serious value for us and our future financial outlook.
 
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