Paul Millsap on the trading block

[DutchJazzer]

Naah maybe in a few years he can become like what joe johnson or boris diaw is. just not yet!

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I actually might do an Exum, Diaw, Burks, for Thabo and Millsap. So much of our issue has been with Diaw and Lyles (sadly) replace our garbage minutes with All-Star minutes. Millsap is a much better fit in the starting lineup than Favs or Diaw.

I'd think long and hard about it if Atlanta would do that deal. Salary wise losing Burks and Exum's salary for next year clears up about $15M. The challenge would be talking Favs into coming off the bench and having Hill, Hayward and Millsap be FA at the same time.

It is really kind of intriguing. in the new CBA with shorter contracts I think you have to take a few chances like this.

 

[candrew]

I actually might do an Exum, Diaw, Burks, for Thabo and Millsap. So much of our issue has been with Diaw and Lyles (sadly) replace our garbage minutes with All-Star minutes. Millsap is a much better fit in the starting lineup than Favs or Diaw.

You'd trade a top 5 pick that's barely played 100 NBA games for a player that may very well amount to a 45 game rental?

Good grief.

 

[silesian]

Yes, Millsap is good. But Favors is much better defensively.

Buzzer.

"much better"? Milsap is all-NBA second team defense and his DRPM is #2 among PFs.

 

[silesian]

Nope. Did the whole talented yet undersized PF/Center thing from 07-2010. It got us nowhere in the end.

Apples and avacados:

1. Millsap with Gobert. Millsap with Okur.
2. Millsap can guard today's 4s as league has moved from power to stretch 4s

 

[candrew]

Apples and avacados:

1. Millsap with Gobert. Millsap with Okur.
2. Millsap can guard today's 4s as league has moved from power to stretch 4s

Yeah, I actually think Millsap is a better defender now than he was in Utah. And size is not as much of an issue as it once was - with the exception of a Utah-San Antonio match-up in the playoffs.

I'd take Millsap on my team, who wouldn't? But if I'm taking 20 mil off Atlanta's books on a expiring deal for a 32 year old player, they better be prepared to be underwhelmed on the return.

 

[b_line]

There could be one from Utah, that is, if everyone gets healthy and we don't trade away defense for offense.

But millsap was getting dpoy consideration. He is no slouch defensively.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

You'd trade a top 5 pick that's barely played 100 NBA games for a player that may very well amount to a 45 game rental?

Good grief.

Two players that may be rentals... maybe not.

Exum was the 5th pick... outside of that I'm not sure what there is to base him having amazing upside. There have been a lot of misses around his draft position and he is due an extension either this off-season or next. I'm just not seeing it... in today's NBA to play the perimeter you need to shoot. I think Exum missed some steps in his natural development in part by going from Australian HS ball to the NBA and in part from injury. I am not sure he ever makes those up without some significant NBA PT... Based on his current performance we would take a step back if he plays. So, when does he get the run he needs to develop?

I would see it as cashing out now before he is viewed as a bust or before someone (Brooklyn or another bottom feeder) pays him more than he is worth because of "potential".

The bigger question to me is if I'd be willing to put Burks in the deal. I'm out on Exum... hope he proves me wrong.

 

[fishonjazz]

Except that neither Favors or Gobert are as skilled offensively as Gasol Bynum or Odom.

The flip side is that Gobert is a better defender than all of them and favors is a better defender than a couple of them.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

But millsap was getting dpoy consideration. He is no slouch defensively.

I'd rather have Millsap guarding Green/Griffin/Anderson than Favors.

I'd rather have Favs guarding Aldridge or Gasol, but I think both of those guys would struggle (and did) against Millsap.

If we traded for Millsap (while retain Favs) and our starters were healthy we make the western conference finals. If GS has injury issues we could push them... Isn't that about the best kind of window we can have in today's NBA?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The flip side is that Gobert is a better defender than all of them and favors is a better defender than a couple of them.

Yeah I agree... just think it's not a great comparison. If either of Gobert or Favs could actually punish teams in the post for going small we'd be kind of unstoppable. If you put a small guy on Gasol or Bynum they'd put them in the basket almost everytime in the post. I mean if Kobe passed it to them.

 

[416Klawzz]

Millsap is a has been never the same since he left Utah, undersized less hustle

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