Jazz inquiring about Lou Williams (ESPN)

[fishonjazz]

I'd rather get AB back in sync than bring in Lou.. Not sure how much more he can offer us compared to what AB already does.

Compare their stats and get back to me

 

[elan_prodigy]

Compare their stats and get back to me

Lou Williams (31):

6'1
.416 FG%
.342 3P%
.818 FT%


AB (26)

6'6
.432 FG%
.365 3P%
.751 FT%


So what point are you trying to make exactly?

 

[Carbon13]

To me this trade doesnt make a lot of sense. Especially if were trying to develop Dante.

 

[fishonjazz]

Lou Williams (31):

6'1
.416 FG%
.342 3P%
.818 FT%


AB (26)

6'6
.432 FG%
.365 3P%
.751 FT%


So what point are you trying to make exactly?

Try looking at lou's stats this year vs burks this year. This is the year that is happening right now so their play from 3, 4, 5, years ago really doesn't matter. Like if we compare career numbers for dirk and hayward dirks numbers would be better but I wouldn't trade hayward for dirk right now.

Also what stats are you even showing? I thought it was career stats but the ones you put for Lou have his field goal%, 3 point%, and free throw% all a little lower than the actual numbers are listed on basketball reference.com and the 3 pt% and free throw% you listed for burks are both higher than the actual numbers listed on basketball reference.com

 

[fishonjazz]

Just to help [MENTION=4903]elan_prodigy[/MENTION] out a bit here are their numbers for this season.
Lou: 444% from the field. 386% from 3. 884% from free throw line. 527% efg
Burks: 444% from field. 324% from 3. 682% from the line. 496% efg

Per 36 stats
Lou: 27.7 points per game. 4.7 assists. 3.4 rebounds. 1.7 steals. Gets to the line 8.8 times per game.
Burks: 16.5 points per game. 1.5 assists. 4.4 rebounds. 1.4 steals. gets to the line 5.0 times per game.

Lou is also cheaper and healthier. Burks is younger with more potential though. Both have some combo guard potential (burks more of a 2... lou is more of combo guard) I like burks better and am still the biggest burks homer on jazzfanz i bet but right now i think lou gives the jazz more of what they need and is currently the better player.

Plus you can keep both, see how it goes (both are pretty cheap) and then decide to trade one later.

 

[elan_prodigy]

Try looking at lou's stats this year vs burks this year. This is the year that is happening right now so their play from 3, 4, 5, years ago really doesn't matter. Like if we compare career numbers for dirk and hayward dirks numbers would be better but I wouldn't trade hayward for dirk right now.

Also what stats are you even showing? I thought it was career stats but the ones you put for Lou have his field goal%, 3 point%, and free throw% all a little lower than the actual numbers are listed on basketball reference.com and the 3 pt% and free throw% you listed for burks are both higher than the actual numbers listed on basketball reference.com

So, you want me to compare Lou's best year to AB coming off the better part of 2 years out?

Right... I'll get right on that.

 

[LoPo]

Trade the GS pick and maybe one of our many 2nd rounders for Lou then trade Burks and Favors for Millsap.

We have an excellent PF/C pairing, bench firepower with Lou the rest of this year and next, and financial flexibility long term without the debate over often injured Burks and Favors.

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[Stoked]

Quotes from Lakers fans about Lou Williams/Utah rumors

It's pretty comical to watch LA fans crying about any other fan base. Biggest group of losers there is.

 

[fishonjazz]

So, you want me to compare Lou's best year to AB coming off the better part of 2 years out?

Right... I'll get right on that.

No, just compare the players as they are now cause that is all that really matters. No cherry picking here. You don't need to do anything though since I already did it for you.
How they played last year or the year before or the year before doesn't matter does it? How does something a guy did years ago help us for our game on friday?

 

[fishonjazz]

Though I have changed my mind on getting lou.
I think he is better than anything else we have for that role (scorer off the bench) and I think he makes the jazz better but not contenders or anything and I want Dante to get all the backup minutes at point guard and burks is still my favorite player and I want him to get minutes since I get more enjoyment from watching him play than anyone else.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Lou is cheap to doe. And you don't have to hope he pans out.[/QUOTE

Experts are saying this is the deepest draft in years as in 60 players deep. We are talking 2 players at my best guess at 2.5-3 million over the next four years. I'll take my chances.

 

[fishonjazz]

Lou is cheap to doe. And you don't have to hope he pans out.[/QUOTE

Experts are saying this is the deepest draft in years as in 60 players deep. We are talking 2 players at my best guess at 2.5-3 million over the next four years. I'll take my chances.

Doesn't change that lou is cheap and has already panned out into a good nba player though.