Do you really think the draft will matter?

[LogGrad98]

Do you really think this draft will have any impact on the Jazz in the next 5 years? If so what impact? Is there a game-changer in this draft?

 

[billyshelby]

Not too optimistic if KOC actually drafts two players. But if he gets creative using the picks in trades I might get more excited. Either way I'll be talking myself into whoever comes on board in the hope Jazz scouts really figured out who the diamonds in the rough are.

 

[Chad Feldheimer]

sorry but cheese>jazz

 

[AlaskanAssassin]

It will definitely have an impact. Don't know if that impact will be positive or negative for sure, but I'm leaning towards positive.

 

[green]

Yes, because we already have the #1 pick from this year's draft (Favors).

 

[Jazz Spazz]

Some cheese is good, and some cheese is bad.
That question is too generic, so I didn't feel I could accurately answer the poll.

 

[Mr. McGibblets]

YES! This draft COULD shape the franchise for years to come. Irving and Williams could shape a franchise, and I really think Kemba, or Knight could turn out to be good. No matter how weak the draft looks now, I still think there are 5-10 players who could turn out to be solid starters in the NBA 5 years from now.

The Jazz are in a position they have never been in before: two top 10 picks from the 2010 draft and an additional top 5 pick (chances at top 3) and 12 pick in the 2011 draft. I also have heard that the Jazz really want/will do whatever they can to get Derrick Williams. They have a lot of pieces (expiring Ks, draft picks, young players). However, I have a hard time seeing either of the teams that eventually win a top 2 pick ever trading down to 5/6 due to the overall weakness of the draft.

But... Washington was the 5th worst record last year and Philly was the 6th worst and both won the top 2 picks so you never know what the Jazz might end up with!

Since 2000, the team that won the lottery has usually been in the Jazz's (NJ's) range:

2000 New Jersey Nets -----------(7th-worst) 44 (out of 1000) 4.40%
2001 Washington Wizards ---------(3rd-worst) 157 (out of 1000) 15.70%
2002 Houston Rockets ------------ (5th-worst) 89 (out of 1000) 8.90%
2003 Cleveland Cavaliers----------- (Worst) 225 (out of 1000) 22.50%
2004 Orlando Magic ------------------ (Worst) 250 (out of 1000) 25.00%
2005 Milwaukee Bucks------------ (6th-worst) 63 (out of 1000) 6.30%
2006 Toronto Raptors ------------ (5th-worst) 88 (out of 1000) 8.80%
2007 Portland Trail Blazers------------ (6th-worst) 53 (out of 1000) 5.30%
2008 Chicago Bulls --------------(9th-worst) 17 (out of 1000) 1.70%
2009 Los Angeles Clippers ------ (2nd-worst) 177 (out of 1000) 17.70%
2010 Washington Wizards ------(5th worst)

https://www.nba.com/jazz/features/draft2010_lotteryodds.html

 

[NAOS]

didn't vote.

dunno on this one. outside of the top 2 or 3 players I'm feeling pretty 'meh'.

This is a terrible draft for possessing two lottery picks. Where are all those folks that were rooting for us to tank? How are you feeling now? I'd much rather have our pick next year (which I suppose we still might get because we aren't able to catapult from this position with these incoming players).

my fading optimism is now targeted at the impending lockout... i mean, it's hard to care about this draft class when you might not even see them play until the year after next.

 

[LogGrad98]

Some cheese is good, and some cheese is bad.
That question is too generic, so I didn't feel I could accurately answer the poll.

I deny your claim that cheese can be good or bad. All cheese is good by definition. Just answer the question! Do you like cheese or not?

 

[LogGrad98]

didn't vote.

dunno on this one. outside of the top 2 or 3 players I'm feeling pretty 'meh'.

This is a terrible draft for possessing two lottery picks. Where are all those folks that were rooting for us to tank? How are you feeling now? I'm much rather have our pick next year (which I suppose we still might get because we aren't able to catapult from this position with these incoming players).

my fading optimism is now targeted at the impending lockout... i mean, it's hard to care about this draft class when you might not even see them play until the year after next.

I kind of go along these lines, although I did vote that this draft will only really have an impact if we trade one or both picks for an established all-star-type player. This could be a good draft if we can move assets to improve our lot directly with established players. If we rely on drafting in this draft, we will not get anything that will be a game changer imo. I guess we could end up with 3 or 4 solid starters and hope to get to the championship by being above average across the board.

Yeah, I don't buy that either.

 

[BENTLEY]

A lot of us would've liked the Jazz make the playoffs if only to give up this year's pick rather than next year's. But once it was obvious the Jazz were going to miss the playoffs this year anyway THEN I started rooting for them to fall hard, just to get the most out of the pick. If they're missing the playoffs anyway, better to pick at 12 than at 14. Minor, I know but this season sucked and we have to derive some enjoyment out of stupid things like a couple draft spots.

But yeah, 12- 14 big deal. The pick that matters is the nets pick. I'm having fun rooting for the Kings vs. L.A., for the Wiz vs. Clevland, and for the Bulls vs. the Nets. The chances of moving into the top 3 are increasing.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

I deny your claim that cheese can be good or bad. All cheese is good by definition. Just answer the question! Do you like cheese or not?

I deny your denial, and ask you if it is possible any of the following 383 types of cheeses could be bad? This is maybe half of the cheese types in the world.

Testouri cheese
Roomy cheese
Ayib cheese
Mauritania
Caravane cheese
Bokmakiri cheese
Kwaito cheese
Chhena
Rubing
Rushan
Nguri
Bandel
Paneer
Chhena
Khoa
Sakura cheese
Labneh
Ackawi
Basket cheese
Labneh
Jameed
Jibneh Arabieh
Nabulsi
Paneer
Shanklish
Syrian cheese
Byaslag
Flower of Rajya
Kesong or Quesong Puti
Imsil Cheese
Chura kampo
Chura loenpa
Chhurpi
Bachensteiner
Bergkäse
Brimsen (Austrian term for Bryndza)
Gelundener Käse
Lüneberg cheese
Montafoner Sauerkäse
Mondseer
Staazer
Steirerkäse
Tiroler Graukäse
Tyrolean grey cheese
Limburger cheese
Brussels cheese
Chimay
Herve cheese
Limburger cheese, a soft white cheese with a very strong odor and flavor.
Maredsous cheese
Passendale cheese
Remedou cheese
Rodoric cheese
Livno cheese
Kashkaval
Sirene
katyk
izvara
dunavia
Grilled Halloumi (Cyprus)
Anari
Halloumi (Hellim)
Kefalotyri
Paški sir (Pag Island cheese)
Škripavac ("Squeaking" cheese from Lika)
Tounjski sir (Smoked cheese from Tounj near Ogulin)
Dimsi (Smoked cheese from Zagreb based on Bjelovarac cheese)
Abertam
Olomoucké syrečky
Danish Blue cheese
Danbo
Danish Blue cheese (Dansk blåskimmel(ost))
Danish tilsit or Tilsit Havarti
Esrom or Danish Port-Salut
Fynbo
Havarti cheese or Cream Havarti
Molbo cheese
Saga cheese
Samsø cheese
Tybo
Aura
Lappi cheese
Leipäjuusto ("bread-like cheese", i.e. oven-baked cheese)
Oltermanni
Raejuusto (Finnish cottage cheese)
Selles-sur-Cher cheese
Allgäuer
Bavaria blu
Bonifaz[disambiguation needed]
Cambozola, a combination of French Camembert and Italian Gorgonzola.
Harzer cheese
Handkäse
Hirtenkäse
Limburger cheese
Romadur
Milbenkäse
Neufchâtel
Rauchkäse
Tilsit cheese
Weisslacker
Anthotyros
Arseniko Naxou - (Naxos[disambiguation needed])
Batzos, PDO
Chèvre Metsovou - (Metsovo)
Feta, PDO - (Epirus, Macedonia, Thrace, Thessaly, Peloponnese, Lesvos Island)
Formaela, PDO - (Arachova)
Froumaela Valmandouras - (Peloponnese)
Galotyri, PDO - (Thessaly, Epirus)
Graviera, PDO - Agrafa, Crete, Naxos[disambiguation needed]}
Kalathaki
Kalathotos
Karikeftos
Kaseri, PDO - (Macedonia, Thrace, Thessaly)
Katiki, PDO - (Domokos)
Kefalograviera, PDO - (Crete, Sterea Ellada)
Kefalotyri
Kopanisti, PDO - (Mykonos)
Krasotyri - (Kos)
Ladenios
Ladotyri, PDO - (Crete, Lesvos Island)
Malaka - (Chania)
Manouri, PDO - Thessaly)
Mastelo - (Chios)
Manoura Sifnou - (Sifnos)
Melichloro - (Lemnos)
Metsovella - (Metsovo)
Metsovone, PDO - (Metsovo, Epirus)
Myzithra - (Crete)
Petroti - (Tinos)
Pichtogalo Chanion, PDO - (Chania)
San Michali)
Sfela, PDO - (Peloponnese)
Stamatini
Touloumisio
Xygalo, PDO - (Crete)
Xynomizithra, PDO - (Crete, Myconos)
Xynotyro - (Myconos)
Liptauer or Kőrözött
Oázis (smoked cheese)
Orda[disambiguation needed] (made from whey)
Pálpusztai
Trappista cheese
Höfðingi
Skyr
Parmigiano Reggiano
Latvijas
Sirenje
Kashkaval
Urda[disambiguation needed]
Gbejna (Ġbejna)
Edam
Gouda
Leerdammer
Leyden cheese
Maasdam
Parrano
Vlaskaas
Brunost
Gamalost
Geitost
Gudbrandsdalsost
Jarlsberg
Nøkkelost
Norvegia
Pultost
Snøfrisk
Twaróg
Bryndza
Bundz
Bursztyn - mature cheese similar to Gruyere
Gołka
Koryciński
Oscypek
Redykołka
Rokpol
Twaróg also known as Quark (cheese)
Tylżycki - semi-hard, yellow cheese made from cow's milk
Castelo Branco
Requeijão
Saloio
Santarém
São Jorge
Serra da Estrela
Tomar
Brânzǎ de burduf
Brânzǎ topitǎ
Caşcaval
Caş
Urdǎ
Telemea
Circassian cheese, a crumbly non-melting fresh cheese that is produced in the North Caucasus
Tvorok (творог), a quark-type cheese somewhat similar to cottage cheese or ricotta.
Rossiyski cheese, similar to German Tilsiter
Kačkavalj
Sremski Sir
Zlatarski Sir[1] PDO
Sjenički Sir
Svrljiški Belmuz [2] GI
Krivovirski Kačkavalj[3] GI
Homoljski ovčiji sir (Homolje sheep cheese)[3] GI
Homoljski kozji sir (Homolje goat cheese) [3] GI
Homoljski kravlji sir (Homolje cow cheese)[3] GI
Pirotski Kačkavalj
Lužnička Vurda
Užički Kajmak
Bryndza
Liptauer
Korbaciky
Oštiepok
Parenica
Tvaroh
Bohinc Jože
Tolminc
Planinski sir
Manchego cheese
Afuega'l pitu (Asturias)
Cabrales cheese (Asturias)
Gamonedo cheese (Asturias)
Garrotxa cheese (Catalonia)
Idiazábal cheese (Basque Country))
Majorero cheese (Fuerteventura, Canary Islands)
Manchego cheese (La Mancha, Castile-La Mancha)
Mató cheese (Catalonia)
Murcian cheese (Murcia)
La Serena cheese (Extremadura)
Picón Bejes-Tresviso (Cantabria)
Roncal cheese (Navarre)
Tetilla cheese (Galicia)
Torta del Casar (Extremadura)
Valdeón (León)
Zamorano cheese (Zamora)
Swedish Herrgårdsost
Blå Gotland (Gotland Blue)
Grevé
Herrgårdsost
Hushållsost
Prästost
Svecia
Västerbottensost
Gruyère
Abaza Peyniri
Armola (Seferihisar)
Arnavut Peyniri
Antep Peyniri (Gaziantep)
Beyaz peynir
Civil (Erzurum)
Çamur Peyniri (İzmir)
Çerkez Füme Peynir
Çökelek
Çömlek Peyniri (Kayseri)
Dil Peyniri
Ezine Peyniri (Çanakkale)
Edirne Peyniri
Gravyer (Kars)
Hellim Peyniri
Kaşar Peyniri
Keçi Peyniri
Kelle Peyniri (Balıkesir)
Kirlihanım (Ayvalık)
Kopanisti (İzmir)
Küflü Peynir (Konya, Ardahan)
Küp Peyniri (Yozgat, Sivas)
Otlu Peynir (Van)
Labne Peyniri
Lor Peyniri
Manyas Peyniri (Balıkesir)
Mihaliç Peyniri
Obruk Peyniri (Karaman)
Örgü Peyniri (Diyarbakır)
Salamura (Bingöl, Tokat)
Sayas Peyniri (İzmir)
Telli Peynir (Karadeniz)
Tulum (Erzincan, İzmir, Tunceli, Aydın)
Amster Dammer (British Columbia)
Balderson's Cheddar (Ontario)
Baron (Quebec)
Bleu Bénédictin (Quebec)
Bleu L'Ermite (Quebec)
Bleubry (Quebec)
Bocconcini (Ontario)
Bouq Emissaire (Quebec)
Brie Manoir (Quebec)
Brie L'extra Double Crème (Quebec)
Brie Vaudreuil (Quebec)
Brie Chevalier Fines Herbes (Quebec)
Brittania (Quebec)
Camembert de Madame Clément (Quebec)
Cantonnier (Quebec)
Cheddar âgé au Porto 10 ans (Quebec)
Chèvre noir (Quebec)
Damablanc (Quebec)
Douanier, Le (Quebec)
Dragon's Breath Blue (Nova Scotia)
Fétard (Quebec)
Frère Jacques (Quebec)
Friulano
Gouda Coureur des Bois (Quebec)
Gouda Old (British Columbia)
Gouda Old Cheese (Ontario)
Kingsberg (Quebec)
Leoni-Grana Parmesan (Alberta)
Mamirolle (Quebec)
Medium Cheddar (Nova Scotia)
Miranda (Quebec)
Mont Saint-Benoît (Quebec)
Mozzarella Yellow Prestigio(Quebec)
Noyan (Quebec)
Oka (Quebec)
Pied-de-Vent (Quebec)
Provolone Sette Fette (Ontario)
Raclette des Appalaches (Quebec)
Raclette Fritz (Quebec)
Raclette Griffon (Quebec)
Riopelle de l'Isle, Le (Quebec)
Saint-Fidèle (Quebec)
Saint-Paulin Québécois (Quebec)
Saint-Paulin Anco (Quebec)
St-Albert Cheddar Curds (Ontario)
Smoked Monterey Jack (Manitoba)
Tomme Québécoise (Quebec)
Trevisano (Ontario)
Valbert (Quebec)
Verdelait Cracked Pepper (British Columbia)
Victor et Berthold (Quebec)
Cuajada
Crema[disambiguation needed]
Queso Fresco
Enredo
Queto
Cuajada
Crema[disambiguation needed]
Queso Fresco
Quesillo
Seco[disambiguation needed]
Oaxaca cheese
Añejo (aged)
Chihuahua
Cotija
Criollo (Creole)
Chiapas cheese
Oaxaca
Panela
Peter Anderson Queso
Quesillo
Coon
Chesdale
Evansdale
Eatondale
Miles Dalton
Cremoso
Criollo
Goya
Reggianito
Sardo
Tandil
Chaqueño
Menonita
Coalho
Catupiry
Minas (a. k. a. "Queijo Minas Padrão", "Queijo Frescal" and "Queijo Curado")
Coalho
Requeijão
Prato
Chanco
Gauda[disambiguation needed]
Panquehue
Renaico
Quesillo
Queso Campesino
Queso Paipa
Queso Costeño
Cuajada
Queso Guayanés
Queso Palmita
Queso de año
Queso semiduro
Queso crineja
Queso Llanero (Prairie Cheese)
Cottage cheese (Many local varieties)
Farmer cheese (many local varieties)
Smoked cheese (many hard cheese varieties may be smoked)
Nacho cheese (mainly US, though it can be found in other places as well)
Margarine cheese, cheese made of margarine.

I definitely think the Venezualan Beaver Cheese is a bad type of cheese.

I rest my case...... now will you clarify the question?

By the way, can you shut up that Bouzouki player?

 

[Jazz Spazz]

I voted for the cheese, but I am of the opinion that this draft will most likely be somewhere in the middle of shaping our team, and being a waste.
I think we can get some good pieces for our team, but I don't think they will be All-Stars.
I am hoping for one All-Star with the 5 or 6 pick though.

My real 2 cents with all joking aside.

 

[green]

Holy crap, that made me laugh. Nice work on the cheese research.

 

[NAOS]

we've spent the majority of our daydreaming on what would happen if the 5-6th pick vaults into the top 3, but I don't think I've heard anybody talk about the various possibilities of taking the 12th pick + player/future pick and moving into the 7-10 range. At the right cost, I think that could be worth the risk; it could net us Knight, for example.

 

[DutchJazzer]

we've spent the majority of our daydreaming on what would happen if the 5-6th pick vaults into the top 3, but I don't think I've heard anybody talk about the various possibilities of taking the 12th pick + player/future pick and moving into the 7-10 range. At the right cost, I think that could be worth the risk; it could net us Knight, for example.

i'd rather have JIMMER.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

Holy crap, that made me laugh. Nice work on the cheese research.

Yeah, I'm sure it was very difficult to find a link that listed all the cheeses.

 

[LogGrad98]

I deny your denial, and ask you if it is possible any of the following 383 types of cheeses could be bad? This is maybe half of the cheese types in the world.

I definitely think the Venezualan Beaver Cheese is a bad type of cheese.

I rest my case...... now will you clarify the question?

By the way, can you shut up that Bouzouki player?

All of those cheeses are wonderful. Beaver cheese is the bees knees. I prefer cheese that smells like feet. I like feet, I do not know why.



Most cheese "types", by the way, are just variations on core cheeses typically differentiated by the type of mammal that produced the raw milk, and the method of production or aging. Like Gouda, Smoked Gouda, Jalapeno Gouda, Fennel Gouda (very good-a bye the way...sorry couldn't resist), etc.

I am still waiting to try opossum cheese. Ooh and imagine gorilla cheese.

Mmmmmm.

 

[LogGrad98]

we've spent the majority of our daydreaming on what would happen if the 5-6th pick vaults into the top 3, but I don't think I've heard anybody talk about the various possibilities of taking the 12th pick + player/future pick and moving into the 7-10 range. At the right cost, I think that could be worth the risk; it could net us Knight, for example.

I disagree. I think in this draft there is not enough difference between a player taken at 7 vs one taken at say 12 or 13. Just no real game changers there. I would not waste assets on a move like that. Better to use them to find something of value already in the league.

 

[Jazz4ever]

No matter how much research you do its always a crap shoot. 90% of the board was willing to give up the farm to trade up and draft Evan Turner or Wesley Johnson, and they are both looking like busts so far.