Haberstroh: 82 Games Season Dead

[7StraightIsGreat]

Also, I love it when the "old school" people cite Larry Bird's toughness. The dude's career was probably seriously shortened because of the rigors of an 82-game season.

What if he was playing an 82 game season in the era of chartered flights, drastically reducing the amount of time he spent sitting in airplanes with that bad back? What if he played in the era of sports medicine and sports nutrition that we currently enjoy? Is it possible that under these circumstances, Larry Bird could have played a little bit longer while still playing this ever daunting 82 game schedule?

 

[7StraightIsGreat]

Cy,

I'd also like to point out that I'm not against making changes to the NBA regular season. When you're not too busy trying to implicate me as a racist, you make a very good point about NFL Thursday night games, even if it is a different sport with a million different variables in comparison to the debate we're having. Since the NFL adopted this full time Thursday night slate, we've seen nothing but utter garbage and it needs to go away fast.

Back to the NBA, I'm all for looking at ways to get rid of back-to-back and the 3 games in 4 night scenario's. I just feel like that doesn't automatically mean they can't play 82 games. It's going to take some outside of the box thinking. Example: The Utah Jazz are hard to schedule because they immediately request a black-out on any Sunday home date each and every year. This automatically takes 1 day out of the equation when the NBA is trying to make a home schedule for the Jazz and inevitably forces the NBA to make Utah play some condensed games in order to make up for that. I remember going to a Jazz-Suns regular season match-up in SLC in the late 90's on a Sunday afternoon. The game was a sellout, the fans were actually there on time and the atmosphere was awesome. Like the Jazz, every NBA teams requests black out dates for a myriad of reasons. The first thing the NBA should do is look at eliminating (or limiting) black out dates for all NBA teams. This would allow the NBA to make a schedule years in advance, do a better job of spacing out the games, and would afford teams the luxury of having a long enough lead time to schedule other revenue drawing events at their arenas. Basically instead of Utah tweaking their schedule and creating a back-to-back scenario so they could accommodate Disney on Ice when it comes to town, Utah would have a schedule made a few years in advance and Disney on Ice would have to pick a time to visit SLC based on that.

Doing something like that in conjunction with adding 2 or 3 week would allow the NBA to alleviate many of the problems that people are citing with the current schedule. The fact that these ideas exist and should at least be explored is why I'm not ready to throw my hands up in the air and call for the end of an 82 game regular season.

 

[NAOS]

What if he was playing an 82 game season in the era of chartered flights, drastically reducing the amount of time he spent sitting in airplanes with that bad back? What if he played in the era of sports medicine and sports nutrition that we currently enjoy? Is it possible that under these circumstances, Larry Bird could have played a little bit longer while still playing this ever daunting 82 game schedule?

Are you asking if these other things might have helped to alleviate the biggest issue (i.e. the 82-game schedule)? Of course it's possible; I'm going with the 'highly unlikely' option, though.

 

[7StraightIsGreat]

Are you asking if these other things might have helped to alleviate the biggest issue (i.e. the 82-game schedule)? Of course it's possible; I'm going with the 'highly unlikely' option, though.

So since it's inception, do you think the 82 game schedule has always been a problem?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Lol, race baiting on an internet message board. Quaint.

I did what you did, looked at every possible side and assumed the worst about a person.

 

[NAOS]

So since it's inception, do you think the 82 game schedule has always been a problem?

for some kinds of injuries? Yes

You seem to be gliding over the point that the game has changed. The forces acting on the body have changed. And that the human body has limits, despite teh awesomeness of science. I'd say the 82-game season is a bigger problem now than it was at inception. I think that's the majority view of trainers.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Cy,

I'd also like to point out that I'm not against making changes to the NBA regular season. When you're not too busy trying to implicate me as a racist, you make a very good point about NFL Thursday night games, even if it is a different sport with a million different variables in comparison to the debate we're having. Since the NFL adopted this full time Thursday night slate, we've seen nothing but utter garbage and it needs to go away fast.

Back to the NBA, I'm all for looking at ways to get rid of back-to-back and the 3 games in 4 night scenario's. I just feel like that doesn't automatically mean they can't play 82 games. It's going to take some outside of the box thinking. Example: The Utah Jazz are hard to schedule because they immediately request a black-out on any Sunday home date each and every year. This automatically takes 1 day out of the equation when the NBA is trying to make a home schedule for the Jazz and inevitably forces the NBA to make Utah play some condensed games in order to make up for that. I remember going to a Jazz-Suns regular season match-up in SLC in the late 90's on a Sunday afternoon. The game was a sellout, the fans were actually there on time and the atmosphere was awesome. Like the Jazz, every NBA teams requests black out dates for a myriad of reasons. The first thing the NBA should do is look at eliminating (or limiting) black out dates for all NBA teams. This would allow the NBA to make a schedule years in advance, do a better job of spacing out the games, and would afford teams the luxury of having a long enough lead time to schedule other revenue drawing events at their arenas. Basically instead of Utah tweaking their schedule and creating a back-to-back scenario so they could accommodate Disney on Ice when it comes to town, Utah would have a schedule made a few years in advance and Disney on Ice would have to pick a time to visit SLC based on that.

Doing something like that in conjunction with adding 2 or 3 week would allow the NBA to alleviate many of the problems that people are citing with the current schedule. The fact that these ideas exist and should at least be explored is why I'm not ready to throw my hands up in the air and call for the end of an 82 game regular season.

Why is it important to play 82 games?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

What if he was playing an 82 game season in the era of chartered flights, drastically reducing the amount of time he spent sitting in airplanes with that bad back? What if he played in the era of sports medicine and sports nutrition that we currently enjoy? Is it possible that under these circumstances, Larry Bird could have played a little bit longer while still playing this ever daunting 82 game schedule?

What if Larry Bird grew up playing AAU basketball and played international basketball every year?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Not to mention Bird and other old era guys played during a time of less NBA teams and intense travel. Even though they did have ax luxury accommodations, there was way less travel.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

This is a GREAT point. If Cy wants to replicate NFL's success so much, and want each game to be extremely RARE, why not just do a 16 game season?


NFL teams don't play each other twice a year do they? Why do we need to stick to that? NFL has the recipe to success right?

How is that a great point? It's him being an ******* and trying to being hyperbolic instead of actually thinking.

The NFL had figured out a great formula. Own a day and play a marquee game on Monday night. That gives every team 6-8 days rest between games to recover, gameplan, and practice. The NBA never figured that out. They are just now figuring out how bad back-to-backs are.

 

[NAOS]

OL is just completely ****ing flailing and failing at this discussion. IQ is clearly a problem.

 

[7StraightIsGreat]

Why is it important to play 82 games?

If back-to-backs can be eliminated all together, why is it important that they don't play 82 games? Isn't your point of this conversation to limit the physical stress on on the players, resulting in less injuries and creating an overall better product? Maybe that can be achieved while still preserving the 82 game schedule. Why would that be so bad? If you cut games, which games do you cut? Do the Jazz only play the Eastern Conference teams once a year? Do they scale back division games? I like the current balance of an NBA schedule and I think they can preserve that while making some changes that would accommodate the other side of the argument.