Haberstroh: 82 Games Season Dead

[Ron Mexico]

He said that's what he thought as well before doing a lot of research on it over the past month, and after having done that research he said the data is less clear cut.

Then he is lying or ignorant. The data is there and has been for a long time. It is very conclusive and again is just common sense. You increase your odds of injury by putting yourself in harm's way more often. My guess is for PR reasons and money reasons he is trying to spin this in their favor. But that is just my guess.

 

[The Midnight]

Then he is lying or ignorant. The data is there and has been for a long time. It is very conclusive and again is just common sense. You increase your odds of injury by putting yourself in harm's way more often. My guess is for PR reasons and money reasons he is trying to spin this in their favor. But that is just my guess.

Common sense can be false.


I remember before I began running a couple of years ago I read research about runners and knee injuries. And it turns out that you're more likely to get injuries if you run less than 4 times a week OR run more than 4 times a week, the sweet spot is to run about 4 times a week (approximate number as I don't remember what study it was). The reason being that if you run about 4 times a week the body creates various protective tissues around the knee that helps protects it. (or something like that I don't remember what study it was). If you run less than that the body doesn't create enough, and if you run more the body is prone to fatigue, etc.


But anyway, that really surprised me and it made me realize that common sense isn't always right. You have to look at the study and see it for yourself. And since we don't have the data/studies that he's looking at it's unfair to say that he's ignorant IMO.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Common sense can be false.


I remember before I began running a couple of years ago I read research about runners and knee injuries. And it turns out that you're more likely to get injuries if you run less than 4 times a week OR run more than 4 times a week, the sweet spot is to run about 4 times a week (approximate number as I don't remember what study it was). The reason being that if you run about 4 times a week the body creates various protective tissues around the knee that helps protects it. (or something like that I don't remember what study it was). If you run less than that the body doesn't create enough, and if you run more the body is prone to fatigue, etc.


But anyway, that really surprised me and it made me realize that common sense isn't always right. You have to look at the study and see it for yourself. And since we don't have the data/studies that he's looking at it's unfair to say that he's ignorant IMO.

Well when common sense, hundreds of studies or more and experts all come in agreement it's add solid as you get. That is what we have in this situation. It's not just one on its own.

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[The Midnight]

Well when common sense, hundreds of studies or more and experts all come in agreement it's add solid as you get. That is what we have in this situation. It's not just one on its own.

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Where are these hundreds of studies? Maybe you should email them to Adam Silver as he isn't as convinced as you seem to be.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Where are these hundreds of studies? Maybe you should email them to Adam Silver as he isn't as convinced as you seem to be.

Take ten seconds and dig through any study on it. And yes I feel pretty good on this one since it is tied to my work in sports performance revolves around injury prevention. But if you feel otherwise about this then do some objective research and let me know what you find.

 

[The Midnight]

Take ten seconds and dig through any study on it. And yes I feel pretty good on this one since it is tied to my work in sports performance revolves around injury prevention. But if you feel otherwise about this then do some objective research and let me know what you find.

Well are these studies specific to the NBA or are they for other sports and other leagues? Maybe Silver is just trying to drill down to NBA specific reports as it pertains to the 82 game season before making what could potentially be a huge decision to reduce games.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Well are these studies specific to the NBA or are they for other sports and other leagues? Maybe Silver is just trying to drill down to NBA specific reports as it pertains to the 82 game season before making what could potentially be a huge decision to reduce games.

D. all of the above.

 

[The Midnight]

D. all of the above.

So not all of them are specific to the NBA? Then you need to determine how relevant they are first.

 

[Ron Mexico]

So not all of them are specific to the NBA? Then you need to determine how relevant they are first.

Lol, you are just arguing for the sake of arguing. I'm sure you have some point you are trying to make but you are reaching pretty hard here. Let me know when you actually do some research on this I would love to listen to your argument​ then.

 

[The Midnight]

Lol, you are just arguing for the sake of arguing. I'm sure you have some point you are trying to make but you are reaching pretty hard here. Let me know when you actually do some research on this I would love to listen to your argument​ then.

I'm just trying to figure out what your hundreds of studies are. I mean do you think a study on the NHL, or the NFL or the MLB are relevant to the NBA? How is that reaching? To me that's being prudent and not just glossing over.


And I believe that's what Adam Silver is trying to do, take a prudent approach instead of just relying on 'common sense' or studies on other sports that's not relevant to the NBA.

 

[Ron Mexico]

I'm just trying to figure out what your hundreds are studies are. I mean do you think a study on the NHL, or the NFL or the MLB are relevant to the NBA? How is that reaching? To me that's being prudent and not glossing over.

Why don't you look into it and let me know.

But to answer your question yes they can be relevant but not by themselves. There are a lot of factors but this one is pretty simple and straight forward. You can look at the data from host the NBA and it comes to the same conclusion.

Let's start with a simple question. Do you increase your chance of injury by playing basketball? Do they get injured more or less than the average person the same age and physical shape?

 

[The Midnight]

Why don't you look into it and let me know.

But to answer your question yes they can be relevant but not by themselves. There are a lot of factors but this one is pretty simple and straight forward. You can look at the data from host the NBA and it comes to the same conclusion.

Let's start with a simple question. Do you increase your chance of injury by playing basketball? Do they get injured more or less than the average person the same age and physical shape?

But what if they extend the season by 2 weeks and give players more rest in between? What happens then? Would that have the same affect as taking out 10 games in a season? That's the kind of not-so-clear-cut question you've got to consider as well.


If you have your heart set on shortening the season, then yeah it's clear cut, but if you're Adam Silver he has to answer to the Board and 30 owners, then he's keeping an open mind about what he's going to be recommending, as well as having the 'relevant' studies to back up his recommendation.


Because when you're proposing a radical change such as taking out games, you better be damn sure that what you're doing is the right thing. This is not a 5th grade homework we're talking about, this is now a billion dollar business you're dealing with here.