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Why does everyone think Milsap will accept a bench role?

Because fans have this idea that their favorite players are these completely noble and unselfish creatures.

Kinda like how Deron was a leader?
Or that Millsap will accept a bench role?
Or that AK would become the 03-04 version because of this contract year?

Millsap won't accept a bench role. Especially if the player is much younger, like Favors. He might have kept quiet under Sloan. But under Corbin, I'd give this maybe 30 games before we'd have to unload Millsap via trade.
 
Isn't this the same problem the Jazz are always going to have Milsap is the type of player that will stick around. Yet, we are going to try and bend over backwards for an unknown 18 yr old talent. Who if he becomes a star is going to be on the first train out of here. I don't see us being able to keep him. Heck, I think that if Gordon has his way he will end up in IND also. That is why we should keep the hard working blue collar guys. Wes would have stayed loyal, Brewer would have stayed, and Milsap will stay as long as KOc doesn't treat him like crap.
 
Isn't this the same problem the Jazz are always going to have Milsap is the type of player that will stick around. Yet, we are going to try and bend over backwards for an unknown 18 yr old talent. Who if he becomes a star is going to be on the first train out of here. I don't see us being able to keep him. Heck, I think that if Gordon has his way he will end up in IND also. That is why we should keep the hard working blue collar guys. Wes would have stayed loyal, Brewer would have stayed, and Milsap will stay as long as KOc doesn't treat him like crap.

Why do you think that? Not every NBA player in the league wants to go back to his hometown. Most of them prefer $ and winning.
 
What if Favors isn't Dwight Howard. What was his career high? What was Milsap's rookie career high?

ARe we as Jazz fans putting irrelistic expectations on an 18 year old that probably is going to take 2 or 3 years to develop?

I would rather start Milsap and Jefferson then give Favors the minutes backing up those two positions. That is only if we don't draft another PF/C.

I also think that EVans is SF. There are plenty of long athletic SF. He is not thick enough for the PF position.

Of course everyone is being heavily optimistic and somewhat unrealistic about Favors and even Haywards future play. But next year's team is not going to benefit from relegating Favors (or Hayward) to a bench role. They will not develop as fast as they will playing against starting caliber players (and more minutes) and we will not win any more games by using this strategy, not enough to make a real difference anyway - it is not like it will be the difference between the number 8 seed and the number 3 o 4, more likely the difference between pick #9 and #12. We are in a unique position the Jazz have really never been, having potentially several lottery picks with a team in rebuild so you can actually play those lottery picks substantial time to accelerate their development. Just gotta do it.
 
I think Gordon is a different type of player. Did you see the fan fare when we played in IND. He went to Butler, he seems like the kind of guy that has an attachment to his family, and the area. I just don't think it is good that the Jazz organization or fans start putting our eggs into one basket of unknowns.

If we would have made some wiser moves Dwill and Sloan would still be here and we would have made it to the playoffs. I'm not talking about smoozing Boozer. I'm talking about looking at our role players and finding those that are Jazz type players. So, by trading Milsap or moving him to the bench just because we expect Favors to have a higher upside is plain ridiculous.
 
Of course everyone is being heavily optimistic and somewhat unrealistic about Favors and even Haywards future play. But next year's team is not going to benefit from relegating Favors (or Hayward) to a bench role. They will not develop as fast as they will playing against starting caliber players (and more minutes) and we will not win any more games by using this strategy, not enough to make a real difference anyway - it is not like it will be the difference between the number 8 seed and the number 3 o 4, more likely the difference between pick #9 and #12. We are in a unique position the Jazz have really never been, having potentially several lottery picks with a team in rebuild so you can actually play those lottery picks substantial time to accelerate their development. Just gotta do it.

Giving them minutes in not a problem. I don't think that when after the team started to tank anyone could say that they didn't get enough minutes. But, even if you go back to the time when Dwill was a young back up it was a completely different situation. Dwill was behind Milt Palacio and Keith McCloud hardly two names that anyone will remember in 5 years. So, with Dwill as the 3rd pick he needed the minutes.

If we also go by potential shown in minutes wouldn't we have to consider that Evans would have even more potential than Favors. Because most of the time that Evans was out on the court he was efficient.
 
Millsap works for the Jazz. He is an employee. I expect him to do as he's told and like it, or be traded. The choice is his.
 
Yea... I don't understand either how ppl on this board "know" if a player wants to stay here or not. Bottom line is that I would rather have favors out there on the court now instead of millsap. I don't care if millsaps offense is alot better than favors.. favors D causes problems, and he has a presence Defensively while he is out there. Favors/Gordon is the future of the franchise.. Millsap will NEVER lead us to a championship so chau
 
It is not about working hard to get a starting spot, it is about playing team ball and taking on the best role to help us win, now or in the future. I know player's egos don't let them think that way (other than Ginobili) but it would do them well to think along those lines. This is a lot like the "I am getting a raise regardless" thing. All that matter is that I am the starter, that I get a bigger contract, that I am the star. The money will come, so will the accolades, and moreso if the players play to win rather than play to be recognized. We are in this for the championship and if we have a player that is not on board with that, then trade them for someone who wants to win more than see their dunk in the sports center highlights.
 
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