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Steve Kyler: 60-40 that Hayward stays

I wish Hayward would just make a blog post about his desire to stay. I'm quickly becoming an alcoholic waiting for his decision.
 
franklin said:
If these dumb asses would just take a pay cut and build a championship... I've never understood why professional athletes worry about maximizing now and then end up taking the vet minimum to hopefully get over the championship hump. They could easily make several million more than the minimum to make up the difference they lost over the years. Manu Ginobili signed for $14,000,000 last offseason. Pau signed for 2 yrs/31mm stupid money. If they take a cut and get a ring then they can feel good enough about their careers to not take a cut for a ring. That is, if they are true competitors.
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First you get the money.

Then you get the power.

Then you get the women.

Then you get the ring.
 
Beantown said:
The Boston media is tough. The Globe has even been really hard on Brady lately about his charitable organizations. A good portion of the media/fans already want to get rid of Isaiah Thomas.

It's a very brutal place to be an athlete.
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I think this is something people say that can get overlooked when you are making a decision. I hope Hayward truly considers how Utah has embraced him and how he will go under a microscope there and even if he is great... he's competing in a championship or nothing environment. Red Sox, Pats, and Celtics (although it's been a little while)... that city has expectations and Hayward is much more likely to disappoint than impress.

He also won't have as much offensive opportunity if IT is retained... we don't have as many offensive mouths to feed.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think this is something people say that can get overlooked when you are making a decision. I hope Hayward truly considers how Utah has embraced him and how he will go under a microscope there and even if he is great... he's competing in a championship or nothing environment. Red Sox, Pats, and Celtics (although it's been a little while)... that city has expectations and Hayward is much more likely to disappoint than impress.
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I agree. His easiest path is to take our max contract. The expectations for him and the franchise are lower here. That's not a shot at our Jazz, but just the truth. If we are looking at 60/40 percentages, I bet 40% of Jazz fans think we won't win a title ever.
 
LoPo said:
Nobody really knows anything at this point. So much has to be done prior to his decision. We have 4 draft picks, expiring contracts, guys on the last year of their deals, and some unanswered questions.

In my personal opinion, we need to make a pretty decent sized trade around the draft. We should use Favors, #24, #30, one or two of the 2nd rounders, and one of our firsts from next year. I would even consider trading Hood if the right deal made itself available. What I would target:

- Paul George (worth a shot but probably not happening)
- Jimmy Butler (worth a shot but probably not happening)
- Moving into the lottery (only worth dealing Favors and #24 if we have the perfect target)
- Evan Fournier from Orlando (he's on a long term deal making $17 per year). He would be a better fit long term than somebody like Ingles. He's on a cheaper contract than what Hood will probably get.
- Jabari Parker from the Bucks - they are set to have a $110million roster next season. However, we could trade with them around the draft to take on Parker and a bad contract. You never know...
- D'Angelo Russell from the Lakers - maybe we take back a contract like Deng or Mozgov. Hood, Favors, Diaw and picks maybe get it done. Russell and Exum long term with Hayward and Gobert.
- Rubio if we can get him cheap from Minnesota.
- Mo Harkless - they are miles over the luxury next year. If they trade him before July 1, they will avoid the luxury tax this year which they will definitely be into next year. They would avoid the repeat offender luxury tax so it saves loads of money this year and next. We would only do it if they added in a pick or two.
- Danny Green - you never know, they might actually be in the Chris Paul sweepstakes.
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- another long shot Chris Paul. Why not add the Jazz to that equation. They could dump enough to be able to offer him a max along with going over for Hayward. It would mean saying good bye to Ingles unless he re-signed on the way cheap deal.

- I like the idea of trying to go get Kevin Love. His name has been in trade rumors again. Love is the perfect fit next to Gobert. It would mean giving up what ever assets the Jazz have in Hood, Favs, Burks and expiring plus a draft pick or 2.

i really like the Fournier idea.
 
Crocodile Dante said:
- another long shot Chris Paul. Why not add the Jazz to that equation. They could dump enough to be able to offer him a max along with going over for Hayward. It would mean saying good bye to Ingles unless he re-signed on the way cheap deal.

- I like the idea of trying to go get Kevin Love. His name has been in trade rumors again. Love is the perfect fit next to Gobert. It would mean giving up what ever assets the Jazz have in Hood, Favs, Burks and expiring plus a draft pick or 2.

i really like the Fournier idea.
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Very good points. Those two should also be in the conversation.

If we traded for Kevin Love prior to July 1, we could save the Cavs so much freaking money. I would imagine this scenario (remember the salary cap is $94million and we have around $14 in cap space):

Kevin Love $21 million

for

Diaw ($7), Hood ($1.4), #24 in 2017, #30 in 2017, our pick in 2018 and maybe more.

Since Diaw's contract isn't guaranteed for next year, the Cavs would shed an enormous amount of space with this deal. Now would they give up a top 25 NBA talent in Love to save money? Not sure, but who knows what they could pull off with the extra draft picks. They might be able to use the picks to get Melo after July 1.
 
As an addition to my last post, it must be noted that the Cavs spent $54 million last year just in taxes. As a repeat offender, that tax goes up. If they could shed around $14million in contracts prior to July 1, they would avoid the repeat luxury tax offender.

IF the Cavs get swept pretty badly, this could make a whole lot of sense for them on a few levels.
 
LoPo said:
Very good points. Those two should also be in the conversation.

If we traded for Kevin Love prior to July 1, we could save the Cavs so much freaking money. I would imagine this scenario (remember the salary cap is $94million and we have around $14 in cap space):

Kevin Love $21 million

for

Diaw ($7), Hood ($1.4), #24 in 2017, #30 in 2017, our pick in 2018 and maybe more.

Since Diaw's contract isn't guaranteed for next year, the Cavs would shed an enormous amount of space with this deal. Now would they give up a top 25 NBA talent in Love to save money? Not sure, but who knows what they could pull off with the extra draft picks. They might be able to use the picks to get Melo after July 1.
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Good points

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