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Hayward is fool's gold

Saint Cy of JFC said:
You definitely did. You argued with for months about how badly Hayward was overpaid.
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That was a few seasons ago. This year, he earned it.

If I said anything about pay, its that Durant and LBJ gets the same as Conley and Hayward. When you consider what they mean to the league, Hayward is over paid. When you consider market value, its fair.

Don't misquote me Cy, you're better than that.

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silesian said:
Hayward has closed gap on shooting, Klay still better. But Klay has defenses focused on KD, Steph, whereas GH has to create own shot more frequently. Still their efficiencies are similar. Defense is a push. Hayward much better on the boards and creating shots for others.

Despite W's notoriety, sportswriters picked GH over KT in All NBA voting.

I won't debate your 30 GMs comments since I don't talk to them, but I would say it is a dubious and unsupported statement.
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Hayward also is a better ball handler and better at getting to the line.

Also, and this is probably a homer statement, I think Hayward has the better work ethic and has gotten better every year. I feel line klay hasn't improved in the last few years. He is what he is. An elite shooter and great defender.
Hayward is so much more.
 
Hayward is young, American, handsome, and white. In the only market whiter than Boston, it's hardly difficult to see why Utah wants him so badly, and why Boston is just behind us in the covet war. OP is obviously correct, he's not a superstar, but the lack of melanin bridges the gap between he and Curry for Utah and Boston fans, and that's the simple truth. And that's just fine -- it's okay to want your heroes to look like you. But from a purely basketball perspective, him leaving is hardly Chernobyl.
 
silesian said:
Hayward has closed gap on shooting, Klay still better. But Klay has defenses focused on KD, Steph, whereas GH has to create own shot more frequently. Still their efficiencies are similar. Defense is a push. Hayward much better on the boards and creating shots for others.

Despite W's notoriety, sportswriters picked GH over KT in All NBA voting.

I won't debate your 30 GMs comments since I don't talk to them, but I would say it is a dubious and unsupported statement.
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There is no way Klays efficiency stays the same if he became the focal point of an offense and was double teamed as much as Hayward and had the kind of focus that Hayward gets. Klay has the most wide open shots of any player in the NBA.
 
Naw Gtime is a top 15 player after his end of this season /playoff performance
 
Klay vs Hayward is irrelevant. I have an opinion and some of you have a different opinion.

At the end of the day, we probably won't have either to start the 2017-18 season.

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Klay is a overrated just a little, he's not hayward.

Best players in the game would be durant lebron kawhi westbrook harden curry chris paul butler kyrie, then it gets controversial but id put hayward in this next tier before the bigs like anthony davis
 
I keep seeing people reference how much cap room we will have if Hayward leaves. Correct me please if I'm wrong but I'm not seeing all this room.

At most we'll have 33M in cap room. That only happens if Diaw, Hill, Mack, Withey, Ingles, and Neto also are gone. That would leave us with 10 players total on the roster and 31M dollars to fill out the other 5 spots. Not a lot of money at all unless you fill the roster with D-league scrubs.

So
Gobert
Favors
Burks
Exum
Hood
Johnson
Lyles
Bolomboy
2 draft picks

That roster costs 68M dollars.

Room to work with but not really tons of cap room, considering how many spots you have to fill.
 
the GSW superteam only came to be because they have Curry on the all time best bargain ever hes getting paid similar to what we pay alec burks :(
 
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