General NBA Craziness and How it Applies to Utah
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LoPo
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Trading Favors is the logical thing to do. Think about it:
- he doesn't fit next to Gobert. Yes, during the season they can excel, but not when we need it most.
- if we traded him before July 1, we could take back $25 million since we have $13 million in 2016-17 cap space
- we aren't going to want to re-sign him next summer. We aren't spending 45% of our cap on a PF/C and a C in a league led by wings
- we have bigger needs at the wing and PG than we do at PF. With Gobert, a number of different types of guys can fit at PF. We don't need him as much
- he's too injury prone. It sucks, but it's a reality. We need guys we can count on. I'd rather have injury prone oversized PG Hill than Favors.
- he's an asset right now. If he walks next summer, that's yet another asset we lose for nothing.
He's a great guy, and I wish him a successful career. It's not his fault we found Gobert, but we found Gobert. We need his money for more necessary positions.
- he doesn't fit next to Gobert. Yes, during the season they can excel, but not when we need it most.
- if we traded him before July 1, we could take back $25 million since we have $13 million in 2016-17 cap space
- we aren't going to want to re-sign him next summer. We aren't spending 45% of our cap on a PF/C and a C in a league led by wings
- we have bigger needs at the wing and PG than we do at PF. With Gobert, a number of different types of guys can fit at PF. We don't need him as much
- he's too injury prone. It sucks, but it's a reality. We need guys we can count on. I'd rather have injury prone oversized PG Hill than Favors.
- he's an asset right now. If he walks next summer, that's yet another asset we lose for nothing.
He's a great guy, and I wish him a successful career. It's not his fault we found Gobert, but we found Gobert. We need his money for more necessary positions.
Cappy_Smurf
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Wait, so a number of guys can fit next to Rudy at PF. Just not the good 2-way player Favors.
I think Favors is trade bait in the right deal, however, this idea of we need to trade him for who the hell knows what because Lyles or Diaw fit better is nuts. And we aren't getting Porz in any scenario that doesn't include Rudy. Latest report has Phil holding out for both Brooklyn picks, Brown and Crowder. Phil isn't giving him to us just to make your wildest dreams come true.
LoPo
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I never said Diaw or Lyles fit better. I just don't believe, and Quin didn't either, that Favors and Gobert can be on the floor at the same time against GS or other contenders. He refused to play them together in the GS series.
Of course he's better than Lyles and Diaw right now, but we can find other players to play PF and use Favors as an asset to improve at PG or wing depth. We will lose Favors next summer. Trade him for something now.
mellow
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I should change my avatar from Homer Jazz fan to grumpy jazz fan today.
According to Jody G. Jazz looking to trade for a shooter....so they passed on Booker just so they can trade a bunch of picks to draft Kennard?
They had to have a pg so they got Trey Burke, they had to have a playmaking pf so they got Trey Lyles....Is it just me or do our jazz get locked in on a position at draft time?
According to Jody G. Jazz looking to trade for a shooter....so they passed on Booker just so they can trade a bunch of picks to draft Kennard?
They had to have a pg so they got Trey Burke, they had to have a playmaking pf so they got Trey Lyles....Is it just me or do our jazz get locked in on a position at draft time?
Where are you seeing that they are trading a bunch of picks for Kennard? I do agree that they seem to get focused on specific skills or positions at draft time
I like the idea of drafting the best player available as opposed to giving up too much in assets. I'm fine with them drafting whomever DL likes but if they give up assets to move up and the player they draft doesn't work... that's what results in lots of losses. Moving up in this draft is going to cost too much and with such a deep draft I would rather take the B.P.A. It's one thing to move up and take someone with a high-probability of being solid ( like when we drafted D-Will) but Kennard has too many question marks. Your position theory is an interesting one though. I never considered it.
Crawlnstall
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It sucks if he's really gone. Favors is one of my favorite guys on the team as a player. Loves Utah and is super friendly. I met him at the airport once and we talked basketball for a solid 10 minutes or so and got a picture with him. He legit likes talking to fans and knowing how excited he makes his fans.
Like you, if he leaves I'll cheer for him wherever he goes
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If only the jazz would have signed jared dudley a few summers ago.
Just imagine how good we would be.
Just imagine how good we would be.
Park Bites
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we all know how trading up for a player worked for the Jazz last time. *cough burke
The Jazz have had a lot of success drafting in the later end of the draft. I hope they stay where they are.
Bawse Dawg
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Any thoughts on the target if we move into the lottery? I'd swoon for Monk but that seems very unlikely.
End of the day we might have a lottery pick and Beverley. I wonder what we've given up in such a scenario...
End of the day we might have a lottery pick and Beverley. I wonder what we've given up in such a scenario...
♪alt13
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http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9ekeb4n
Hill/Teodosic
Hayward/Ingles
Melo/Ingles/Jj
Porzingis/JJ
Gobert/Noah
Hill/Teodosic
Hayward/Ingles
Melo/Ingles/Jj
Porzingis/JJ
Gobert/Noah