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Why Lindsey should do NOTHING until July 1st
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Jack Strop
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Don't lose faith. There's a rumor floating around that something BIG is currently in the works. It can't take place until July 1st. So Lindsey, outside of a minor deal, won't be using the 2016/17 cap room.
Source hasn't revealed anything else. But it was put out there as something that should hopefully provide the nudge to make Hayward return. By "big" maybe it just means Hill is returning. Who knows?
Source hasn't revealed anything else. But it was put out there as something that should hopefully provide the nudge to make Hayward return. By "big" maybe it just means Hill is returning. Who knows?
Shad
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His mind.
Jack Strop
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Another fan board. I don't have his permission to share. He has connections with other teams, but don't specifically know if he has a source within the Jazz org. So I'd say be skeptical right now, but have hope.
Jack Strop
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I'm just guessing here...trying to connect the dots. We heard a LOT of talk about teams inquiring about Favors. And there was that mysterious tweet by Derrick regarding adversity and a blessing in disguise. The media - suspiciously - never found out what that was all about. Pretty strange, IMO. Could something be up with the PF position?
Shad
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Maybe it was the lyles trade?
Jack Strop
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Yes, but this isn't like paying cash for a car before the end of the year. If they trade for a player using 2016/17 dollars, they then add that player for 2017/18. So it has cap/tax implications. If you look at the roster, just keeping Hayward, Hill and Ingles (and NOT using the exceptions or keeping Diaw) likely puts the Jazz over the tax limit. They might go there once or twice, but IINM, the repeat offender penalty is applied if a team is in the luxury tax 3 out of 4 years. It's a huge penalty. Jazz are not going to want dead dollars on their books.
permission, and asking him his thoughts on possible moves are two different things.
Keefe
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So yeah, if it did for Hayseed what it did for me, he's all but signed, sealed and delivered back to Vivint. So no worries. Plus I took that pic of fish with good ol' Denny. What you don't see is Linds gettin' up 30 seconds later for a new pair of slacks ...
Things got a little messy. But Goddammit if Dennis didn't have the time (or half minute) of his life. I'm not sure how that helps retain Hayward but it certainly can't hurt.
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Douchebag K
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ummm ok
LoPo
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Does anybody else have a problem with our off-season just being resigning Ingles, Hayward and Hill? Do we really think thats the answer?
So the 2017/18 Jazz will be the 2016/17 Jazz but replacing Mack and Diaw with Mitchell and Bradley.
Then think about the 2018/19 Jazz without 2 of Joe J, Favors, Exum and Hood.
I'm extremely unsatisfied with this off-season if that is the plan. That is why the cap space is so important in my opinion. We have to be bold or plan for the world when GS might have to break up (2019). Treading water will do nothing for us.
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So the 2017/18 Jazz will be the 2016/17 Jazz but replacing Mack and Diaw with Mitchell and Bradley.
Then think about the 2018/19 Jazz without 2 of Joe J, Favors, Exum and Hood.
I'm extremely unsatisfied with this off-season if that is the plan. That is why the cap space is so important in my opinion. We have to be bold or plan for the world when GS might have to break up (2019). Treading water will do nothing for us.
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elan_prodigy
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Dude... Our 2016/17 team was BALLER!! wtf you talking about??
We were riddled with injuries and still have development to come from ALL of our players.
Thats some dumb **** you just spewed dude, seriously.
LoPo
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I will stop "spewing" when crybabies like you will stop blaming injuries for everything. You are a bonafide dumb *** if you think Favors, Hood, Hill and others will just remarkably stay perfectly healthy as they age. And also consider guys like Hayward and Gobert who are rarely hurt but bad things can happen.
You are a bigger dumb *** if you think a fully healthy "Baller" team like ours would win more than a game off the Warriors in a 7 game series.
I dont think you are a dumb ***. I just think you are either naive or buying into the "what might be if..." hype.
Going into the luxury when the team isn't a title contender or future title contender is just plain dumb. The only way we contend with our current roster is if Tony Bradley is Al Horford and Mitchell is phenomenal.
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I would love that offseason.
You missed some things though.
Yes we replace mack and diaw with bradley and mitchell which is awesome.
We also would have an all star on our team in hayward who would likely get more respect from the refs plus he may improve a little.
I expect gobert to improve.
We get a near all star caliber PF that we didn't have last year in a healthy Favors. (If he is healthy)
We get a 6th man of the year candidate in a healthy Burks.
We get a near all star caliber pg for about 50 more games than last year if hill is healthy.
Rodney hood should be much better if healthy.
Exum should make a huge jump in production and ability.
Neto should be a bit improved.
Quin with another year of coaching under his belt should show improvement and the team in another year in his system should improve as well.
The team and coaching staff have playoff experience added as well.
That team would have me very excited to see what they could do.
elan_prodigy
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Cry baby??
Are you afraid of the big bad Warriors??? Please...
I'd rather try to beat them than just waive the white flag and wait around until they're done having their fun. We haven't even reached our potential as a side yet so I don't plan on paying too much attention to defeatists like you. Injury history, so what? Same could be said of Steph Curry 3 yrs ago... And I have to disagree, being able to resign our franchise player is kind of a big deal.