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♪alt13 said:
1) Stop allowing developers to build in a flood plain. Not only is it dangerous for the residents of the home but the impermeable surfaces in the flood plain increase the risk of flooding to surrounding communities.

2) Voluntary FEMA development easements. Congress should allocate funds for an incentive(following a flood) for people to leave a high risk flood area to rebuild on a plot with lower flood risk. If a person choses this route they may keep their flooded property but FEMA will own the development rights.
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1. it can be done. the Netherlands never floods and it is basically under sea-level. but they have built the dikes(dykes) dams.(not trying to curse here) to withstand the strongest storm in a 100 years and then some! and the politicians are not really corrupt when it comes to maintaining the dykes, and pump system!

in new orleans for example katrina(do not know about texas as of now)
the army core of engineers build and designed the stuff in new orleans to only withstand a category 3 storm to safe money. guess what happens when **** hits the fans!

after all almost everything the government touches tends to get worse[/QUOTE]


i saw some studies on this a while back, this is just this is just my retelling of events in my messed up broken written english.

just googled a "katrina amry corps of engeneers" and first link that popped up
http://grist.org/article/grunwald/
but maybe you can find some more reputable sources. that one just explains what i said, but without Netherlands as a example of how it can be done
 
funny how we blame climate change, which would give govenrments more power and taxes.

instead of blaming government for not doing their job correctly in the first place!
 
DutchJazzer said:
funny how we blame climate change, which would give govenrments more power and taxes.

instead of blaming government for not doing their job correctly in the first place!
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You think we should blame the government for making the hurricane?
 
fishonjazz said:
You think we should blame the government for making the hurricane?
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I have this awesome co-worker that I mentioned on here before (the one who wouldn't vote for Clinton because she gained her position by sacrificing children in witchcraft rituals). Houston was mentioned yesterday, and he promptly jumped in and explained how hurricanes are created by the globalists in order to push their climate change (fake!) agenda designed to enslave us all.
 
fishonjazz said:
You think we should blame the government for making the hurricane?
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bno as i stated, the huricane cnanot be stopped. but with katrina for example.

the govenrment decided to cut corners on the infrastructure, water levies dykes etc whatever the english name is. and then katrina got worse than it needed to be.

i have heard rumblings that texas also cut corners on the water infrastructure because it is usually dry(i have not confirmed this yet)

but i blame the government for not being adequately prepared
 
DutchJazzer said:
bno as i stated, the huricane cnanot be stopped. but with katrina for example.

the govenrment decided to cut corners on the infrastructure, water levies dykes etc whatever the english name is. and then katrina got worse than it needed to be.

i have heard rumblings that texas also cut corners on the water infrastructure because it is usually dry(i have not confirmed this yet)

but i blame the government for not being adequately prepared
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This is one of the stupidest faux-intellectual arguments you've ever used.

In your world it wouldn't matter who builds the infrastructure. A thing is only perfect until it's not, and at that point it's going to be useless.
 
Harambe said:
This is one of the stupidest faux-intellectual arguments you've ever used.

In your world it wouldn't matter who builds the infrastructure. A thing is only perfect until it's not, and at that point it's going to be useless.
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really? in the case of katrina the infrastructure wasnot designed for such a strong huricane.

I guarantee you if you drop as much water in the netherlands as is being dropped in texas right now. it will be business as usual. hear and there a tunnel flooded nothing more!
 
None the less... it seems like someone in the government did try to write legislation that addressed infrastructure and rising sea levels.

Anyone remember that?
 
Harambe said:
This is one of the stupidest faux-intellectual arguments you've ever used.

In your world it wouldn't matter who builds the infrastructure. A thing is only perfect until it's not, and at that point it's going to be useless.
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No the issue with the government failing to reinforce known weaknesses in the levees in New Orleans pre-Katrina are completely true. It was recommended as far back as the early 90's that the levees needed to be upgraded or a large storm would do exactly what Katrina did. Googling brings up lots of info on the subject. It was not just a failure of Bush to react quickly enough, the failures spanned over a decade of local, state, and federal government inaction.

http://articles.latimes.com/2005/sep/04/nation/na-levee4
 
LogGrad98 said:
No the issue with the government failing to reinforce known weaknesses in the levees in New Orleans pre-Katrina are completely true. It was recommended as far back as the early 90's that the levees needed to be upgraded or a large storm would do exactly what Katrina did. Googling brings up lots of info on the subject. It was not just a failure of Bush to react quickly enough, the failures spanned over a decade of local, state, and federal government inaction.

http://articles.latimes.com/2005/sep/04/nation/na-levee4
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What's the old saying again.. "It's good until it's not?"

It doesn't matter who makes the dam. Someone's going to make it. And it's going to be a damn good dam. Until it's not. And at that point, people are gonna complain about all the same **** that's been listed before. At that point, it really doesn't matter if it's the government or private entities, they're gonna be bitched about. It's not a great "jumping off" point at all.

So let's talk about why corners were cut. You're in charge of keeping a job on time, on budget. Your boss(the people) want safe, but they don't want to pay for it. And in this case, it's Texas, so they damned sure don't want government regulations! It's a tight game, so you follow the guidelines by the book.

And then you look and realize there's next to no regulations to follow. Damn... your job just got easier. So you build happily, cheaply. The freedom loving Texans sing your praises. A few decades later, some jerk writes in some law saying you need to do something about that. And then a Hurricane hits, But not before a cheetoh decides to roll back the law saying you should do something about that.

Texas loves their freedom. So much, they made sure their safety was an option. When pressed, the federal government did try to correct that. Only to be written out.
 
Harambe said:
None the less... it seems like someone in the government did try to write legislation that addressed infrastructure and rising sea levels.

Anyone remember that?
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netherlands is BELOW SEALEVEL and if sealevel rises if im not mistaken a few feet it would still be dry

it will have to take a literal tsunami or asteroid to flood it.

let me tell you something i live on the 2nd floor if the levies would totally fail, the water level will just be shy of entering my home. the people who live beneath me are screwed
 
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