Houston..

[DutchJazzer]

basiclaly i am not syaing the huricane is the governments fault.

but the flooding can be stopped! most of the damage comes form the flooding!

 

[Harambe]

netherlands is BELOW SEALEVEL and if sealevel rises if im not mistaken a few feet it would still be dry

it will have to take a literal tsunami or asteroid to flood it.

let me tell you something i live on the 2nd floor if the levies would totally fail, the water level will just be shy of entering my home. the people who live beneath me are screwed

IT'S ONLY GOOD UNTIL IT'S NOT.

And in Houston, the local government decided they didn't want people tellin dem how to develop 'dems lands. And so they didn't. And then the feds got the balls up to say "Hey guys... this is BS. fix it", only for the cheetoh to come down and say "nah, it's fien"

<insert billions in socialized safety and recovery groups>

 

[DutchJazzer]

disclaimer, i do not know the specifics of texas, what kinda levees and infrastructure it has. but i do know about katrina and netherlands.\


but i would bet that, the flooding could have been prevented!

 

[DutchJazzer]

About one third of the Netherlands lies below sea level, with the lowest point being 22 feet (6.7 meters) below sea level. Meanwhile, the highest point is about a thousand feet above sea level.

google

i live near the coast so i think my floor on the 2nd floor is just above sealevel

 

[Harambe]

disclaimer, i do not know the specifics of texas, what kinda levees and infrastructure it has. but i do know about katrina and netherlands.\


but i would bet that, the flooding could have been prevented!

There will always be a bigger and better(or worse in this situation). This certainly could have been mitigated, if not prevented. Had the local government, which is CLOSEST TO THE PEOPLE, agreed that certain safety precautions should be taken, it wouldn't be that bad.

But they didn't. Welcome to freedom.

 

[DutchJazzer]

There will always be a bigger and better(or worse in this situation). This certainly could have been mitigated, if not prevented. Had the local government, which is CLOSEST TO THE PEOPLE, agreed that certain safety precautions should be taken, it wouldn't be that bad.

But they didn't. Welcome to freedom.

i have a book here in dutch about the flood control and such. but i just googled it. and brought me to wikipedia page in english

The sea defenses are continuously being strengthened and raised to meet the safety norm of a flood chance of once every 10,000 years for the west, which is the economic heart and most densely populated part of the Netherlands, and once every 4,000 years for less densely populated areas. The primary flood defenses are tested against this norm every five years. In 2010 about 800 km of dikes out of a total of 3,500 km failed to meet the norm. This does not mean there is an immediate flooding risk; it is the result of the norm's becoming more strict from the results of scientific research on, for example, wave action and sea level rise.[

so tell me how was katrina again!?


ofcourse a meteor could hit off the coast and we are screwed. or an epic level earthquake. but catrina and andrew would be nothing. only damage from the wind!

 

[DutchJazzer]

one thing i know when those insurance check start commming in the stocfk of american truck adn suv companies will go sky high!

dodge, gmc, cheverlote and ford! maybe i am forgetting 1 or 2!

 

[DutchJazzer]

the more i read and see about this, the more it seems like it could have been prevented, with simple flood management systems. 1 of the true jobs of government!

we can either blame it on this "mythical man made climate change" or you can start building for the next storm. whoch can be in 5 years in another place.

that is enough time to prepare and build infrastructure, but big government cannot have that.

the flooding should never happen at such a large scale.






or you can just sign the climate accord waste billions of dollars on it and watch flooding happen again and again and again and again! and then double down again and sign the alaska accord, triple down and sign the himilaya accord. you get the point

 

[fishonjazz]

bno as i stated, the huricane cnanot be stopped. but with katrina for example.

the govenrment decided to cut corners on the infrastructure, water levies dykes etc whatever the english name is. and then katrina got worse than it needed to be.

i have heard rumblings that texas also cut corners on the water infrastructure because it is usually dry(i have not confirmed this yet)

but i blame the government for not being adequately prepared

You hate it when government gets involved in things doe

 

[Miggs]

the more i read and see about this, the more it seems like it could have been prevented, with simple flood management systems. 1 of the true jobs of government!

we can either blame it on this "mythical man made climate change" or you can start building for the next storm. whoch can be in 5 years in another place.

that is enough time to prepare and build infrastructure, but big government cannot have that.

the flooding should never happen at such a large scale.






or you can just sign the climate accord waste billions of dollars on it and watch flooding happen again and again and again and again! and then double down again and sign the alaska accord, triple down and sign the himilaya accord. you get the point

My wife's uncle who was a Merchant Marine lives there and said usually the deaths are avoidable. He said that many deaths end up being from people who try to drive through the water but it's too deep, they get stuck in their car, and drown, but that all of the underpasses where some of the worst roadway flooding occurs have rulers on the side of the road showing how deep the water is. People just ignore them.

 

[DutchJazzer]

You hate it when government gets involved in things doe

did i ever state i want NO GOVERNMENT?


i want small government. that meanS certain things government can do. and they should be held accountable!


but saying i don't want Hitler style healthcare(commonly known as Bismarck style),or no druglaws. means i want no government.

seriously bro you act like the only 2 options are totally no government. and SUPER BIG OVERARCHING WORLDWIDE government!!!

 

[DutchJazzer]

My wife's uncle who was a Merchant Marine lives there and said usually the deaths are avoidable. He said that many deaths end up being from people who try to drive through the water but it's too deep, they get stuck in their car, and drown, but that all of the underpasses where some of the worst roadway flooding occurs have rulers on the side of the road showing how deep the water is. People just ignore them.

yes, most damage property or lives come from the flooding, not the storm itself. their have been storms for ages. so we cannot change that.

floods in the Netherlands occurred pretty often, but after every flood. instead of blaming it on an "act of god" or in this case arguably the equal mythical man made climate change. they started looking for real solutions!

and the last great flood was in 1953 but before that, floods where way more frequent because of lack of flood control. we are due for another one.



but with every flood the dutch improved, and learned from their mistakes. that and technology advanced.

so what is gonna be done once the water is cleared? nothing people will collect their insurance checks. i will buy stocks in American SUV car companies. i will make some money. and it will be business as usual!