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O/U set at 40.5 by Vegas

something would have to go pretty wrong for the Jazz to be under .500. I'll take the over, with the Jazz ending in the 43-47 win range.
 
That's a good line, it's where I'd put it. +/- models will have us a tad ahead of that, but we're likely to underperform our point differential this season.
 
I'd like to do a parlay with an over on the jazz and an under on the Celtics. Too bad I don't bet.

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My prediction is 37-38 wins.
Don't forget, One minor gobert injury (let's say he missed 9-10 games) and we're done.
 
I honestly see the Jazz around 55 wins. The loss of Hayward sucks but the improvement of the guus and addition of Mitchell and Rubio are pretty significant.

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I honestly see the Jazz around 55 wins. The loss of Hayward sucks but the improvement of the guus and addition of Mitchell and Rubio are pretty significant.

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That is a bit optimistic, but remember last year Hill missed 1/3 the season and was playing at half speed after the All Star break, Favors was never even 80%, and the Jazz were relying on guys like Diaw and Mack in the clutch. Exum is improved, our defense is going to be off the charts, and even Udoh is an upgrade on Withey. I wouldn't be surprised with 52 wins.
 
I'd take the over. Obviously injuries affect any team. Jazz have much better depth than last season. WC improved a lot and it will be a dogfight for the last 5 playoff spots (I'm counting GS, SA and Houston as locks). Probably put OKC in there, too.

I'd say floor for Utah should be .500. Ceiling could be mid-50's but that would be tough. Would need breakouts by Hood, Exum and ROY-like performance by Mitchell. And a return to health by Favors.
 
I'd take the over. Obviously injuries affect any team. Jazz have much better depth than last season. WC improved a lot and it will be a dogfight for the last 5 playoff spots (I'm counting GS, SA and Houston as locks). Probably put OKC in there, too.

I'd say floor for Utah should be .500. Ceiling could be mid-50's but that would be tough. Would need breakouts by Hood, Exum and ROY-like performance by Mitchell. And a return to health by Favors.

I feel safe saying the Jazz are a 44-win team and a 7th seed like Memphis last year. It's possible the Jazz could take the 5th seed with 48+ wins.
 
I have us around 43-44 wins. So, I would take the Over if forced. If I wasn't forced I'd take the Under on Boston, way too high for a team with so much change from last season.

(unrelated, but, just looked at the Espn depth chart. We are one good SF from being a good team. This ruined my day)
 
I honestly see the Jazz around 55 wins. The loss of Hayward sucks but the improvement of the guus and addition of Mitchell and Rubio are pretty significant.

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I hope you're right; but when Vegas is off it's usually +/- 1-5 games.

The bigger misses are usually on the minus side due to injury of a key player(s).

I'm pretty sure +14.5 is quite rare.

Last year Houston ended up +12.5 - but that appears to have been an over-correction by Vegas after The Rockets **** the bed in 2015-16
 
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That is a bit optimistic, but remember last year Hill missed 1/3 the season and was playing at half speed after the All Star break, Favors was never even 80%, and the Jazz were relying on guys like Diaw and Mack in the clutch. Exum is improved, our defense is going to be off the charts, and even Udoh is an upgrade on Withey. I wouldn't be surprised with 52 wins.

I agree. If the Jazz stay healthy then I think they can win over 50 games. The competition is improved but so are the Jazz even with the loss of Hill and Hayward. Dante didn't play much, Rodney was injured. Favors. I think Rubio is going to be a big improvement since Hill was out a lot. I think our bench is deeper and our defense will be better.
 
Jazz are better than a 40 win team. Gobert could miss thirty games, and they would still probably win 40. Too much depth, and the coaching is too good. Even Corbin could win 35 with this group.
 
I love you guys but most of you are waaaaaaay too optimistic. Scoring should be an issue here or there and an injury to Gobert, Favors, or Hood will really exacerbate that. And the Mitchell love has become absolutely roflhelicopterish. Listen, I'm as hopeful as the next guy. I'm hoping the Eagles sign Joe Haden to a 1 year, 7M deal, and that he gets truly healthy and a change of scenery does him good and we play like a top 5 defense and go 12-4 with an easy-ish schedule and a mini-leap by Wentz with the help from wideouts who decide to actually hold onto the ball this year. But I doubt it happens and yet I have more faith in most of that than Mitchell coming in as a rookie who was a mediocre (at best) college three point shooter and being our savior, locking down vets on d, playing with consistency, helping to fill a monstrous void. It's silly.
 
And I'm not saying we may not win 42-46 games but 55 games and ****. Jesus, get a ****ing grip. We're in the West and Deron and Company never even won that many games iirc.
 
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