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Dante Exum: shoulder injury

Cappy_Smurf said:
I do not agree. Utah will try to extend him, and they will offer him a 4 year deal. Probably something similar to what Burks got a 10 Million per. Utah isn't going to let him take the QO just to be a FA a year later.

I also think you're flat wrong that he wouldn't get any offers in FA.
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The thing I really think people on here struggle to get is that Dante isn't a 6ft fast little guy. Dante has a quicker step than all those fast little guys AND he has great length.

In a league where everyone is athletic - the elite first step combatant is king!

He will garner considerable interest (not suggesting they will offer huge dollars) - because he is relatively untried and still young.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
When you give out a 4 year deal to a young player coming off his rookie deal, you're not paying for what you currently think they are. You are betting on what they will become. Just as with Alec Burks, Utah was willing to overpay the first year or two with the idea that by year 3 they'd be getting a bargain or at least have a tradable contract.

Like I said, my opinion is that Utah believes in his development even if you do not.

Hide and watch.
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Utah as an organization are pretty high on themselves when it comes to player development so I highly doubt they are going to give up on Dante. Totally sucks this has happened though but thats sports, it happens. Even with a worse case scenario and Dante doesn't make it back this year I'd still expect the Jazz to offer and extension in the $6Mil-$10Mil/yr range over 4 yrs.

Lets hope this new training staff is all its cracked up to be and they can get him back healthy, quickly and keep him healthy.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Utah isnt extending him for 10 million a year. No chance in hell.

No one is going to offer Exum more than 6 million a year in RFA. And no one is going to offer him that because they know Utah will just match it. They will pursue more realistic FA options and Dante will just sit in RFA for a long *** time w/ his big cap-hold (which sucks for the Jazz). He will then have to make a decision to sign long-term w/ the Jazz on a very team friendly deal or take a QO.

ofc that changes if Dante is able to return and finishes the season strong, but I just doubt that will happen. I wouldn't be surprised if Dante's minutes arent even available once he returns with the way Burks has looked.
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Wow. You change quick on players. (Referring to Burks - you have been consistent on X).
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
This sucks, but looking on the bright side, at least it isn't another knee injury. Although a serious shoulder injury on his dominant side could still affect his game.

Anybody know which shoulder it was?
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I was going to say this elsewhere. I saw that he was injured and gulped, but saw that it was a shoulder. If it were a knee I'd be really worried. Hopefully we get a bit of luck for Dante. Poor dude, he's probably cursing his existence right now. A young kid asking "Why me?" whenever he starts to amp it up and something awful happens. The Jazz staff will know what to do.
 
Mitchell is going to have the ball in his hands more, and Burks is going to get more time. Not saying that's a bright spot, but the Jazz have the depth to handle this.
 
Exum's gonna have potential for a long while I think. He's got rare quickness and playmaking ability for a guy his size. Just has always severely lacked the skills and strength. He's Slowly working his way there. Hopefully he keeps working and another potentially serious injury doesn't diminish his desire.

Exum has been quite bad. I'm not overly discouraged tho. He was drafted for his physical gifts and potential playmaking ability, not for his glue guy m.o. and well-rounded game. He's always been best ball in hand making plays. Very, very few 18-19-20 year olds dudes are going to be efficient, primary playmakers for teams in the NBA, even fewer will be doing it for playoff teams or teams fighting for the playoffs. The fact that he was a perimeter player who sucked at shooting the ball and scoring from essentially anywhere on the floor made him a pretty poor offball option so it's no wonder he didn't play much and sucks. A rail-thin guard with virtually no skills having success in the NBA... proabably ain't gonna happen.

His rookie year he saw the floor more cuz he really focused on the only thing he could do well - he played great defense. He would a Probabaly played more last season if he played d like he had his rookie year.

I just think exum's gonna turn into a totally legit 2 way playmaker without ever being a great offensive player up to that point. Once his skills are up to snuff he'll be ready to make plays. Basically, I don't think he will bring much to the table offensively at all until he can be a primary playmaker, but he might be getting close, at least, he undoubtedly is getting closer.

Or he'll never gain many bball skills and his body naturally fills out and he becomes a journeyman wing player.
 
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Exum's gonna have potential for a long while I think. He's got rare quickness and playmaking ability for a guy his size. Just has always severely lacked the skills and strength. He's Slowly working his way there. Hopefully he keeps working and another potentially serious injury doesn't diminish his desire.

Exum has been quite bad. I'm not overly discouraged tho. He was drafted for his physical gifts and potential playmaking ability, not for his glue guy m.o. and well-rounded game. He's always been best ball in hand making plays. Very, very few 18-19-20 year olds dudes are going to be efficient, primary playmakers for teams in the NBA, even fewer will be doing it for playoff teams or teams fighting for the playoffs. The fact that he was a perimeter player who sucked at shooting the ball and scoring from essentially anywhere on the floor made him a pretty poor offball option so it's no wonder he didn't play much and sucks. A rail-thin guard with virtually no skills having success in the NBA... proabably ain't gonna happen.

His rookie year he saw the floor more cuz he really focused on the only thing he could do well - he played great defense. He would a Probabaly played more last season if he played d like he had his rookie year.

I just think exum's gonna turn into a totally legit 2 way playmaker without ever being a great offensive player up to that point. Once his skills are up to snuff he'll be ready to make plays. Basically, I don't think he will bring much to the table offensively at all until he can be a primary playmaker, but he might be getting close, at least, he undoubtedly is getting closer.

Or he'll never gain many bball skills and his body naturally fills out and he becomes a journeyman wing player.
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This is exactly how I feel. He may have been developing enough counters and options to start being effective. It looked like it was happening, and that his 3 point shot could at least be league average this season. That's really all he needs with his athleticism, defense, and passing ability. I was really encouraged by his decision-making so far. I really hope this isn't as serious as it seems.
 
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