There is some sort of anti-athlete derangement syndrome than runs rampant on Jazzfanz. Its like because the identity of the Jazz is Stockton and Malone, who's game wasnt based around athleticism like Jordan, then that means we cant think athletes are any good. Just players that play below the basket and play the "right way", are the only players that are any good. With the exception of a few that its too obvious to deny(aka Lebron). Its the same thing with personalities. If the player doesnt fit the idea of what jazzfanz think they should act like then they arent any good either. Its not just the fans though. Its led from the top down. Management thinks that way too and convinces the masses that that is the way they should see it too. Hence the one of the reasons why we are stuck in this pattern.