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Following Potential 2018 Draftees

Jazz4ever said:
History says it's very dangerous to make trades like this for tier 1 draft prospects like Ayton. It has to be a blow you away type scenario. Ayton at PF isn't ideal, but he is very quick for his size, more than current Favors. Much better jump shooter too, makes 48% of his jumpers. Now if it was Bamba instead of Ayton, probably would force my hand into trading him for a McCollum or Walker level player.
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Ayton ultimately is too stiff to start at PF, but obviously if there's any C he could do it next to it's Rudy, it's not a long term solution tho because Ayton is gonna be really big as he ages.....

He would have a massive advantage on the offensive glass vs every single matchup other than Anthony Davis I suppose..

Bamba is more of the Porzingis style unicorn u want to gamble on for this and Rudy and Mo on the same team on the same court together will just look absurd, the court will look tiny as hell.. It'd be viable, people been trying to coach Mo into the pure C spot for years, but he could function well like that tbh, imho, next to Rudy..

There's really alot of interesting lesser options of these PF/C shotblocking archetypes in this draft too.. Daniel Gafford, Robert Williams, Mitchell Robinson, Jaren Jackson
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Would Wendell Carter be a good pick if we are sitting around 10 and can he be our stretch 4?

Impressive stats.
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He's not a stretch 4. He's more of a 'traditional' big. I like him, but I'm not sure he's quite on par with Robert Williams.

The Jazz need a versatile athletic combo forward in the worst way. Players like Knox, both Bridges and Vanderbilt should get looks.
 
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Saint Cy of JFC said:
Would they be willing to throw in more then? I just can't see the Jazz drafting Ayton, and there isnt anyone good enough to draft over him. Like throwing in Lamb and taking Burks back. I get that there is the recent George Hill wound of Jazz finally getting a good PG, he blows up in the system, then suddenly starts demanding crazy money wound.

Maybe a better scenario would be the Jazz trade Ayton to the Blazers for CJ McCollum?

Jazz throw in Burks/Rubio to match salaries and the Blazers give the Jazz an additional future 1st?


Or the Cavs w/ the Nets pick and Love? Cavs could also throw in Crowder. So Ayton/Burks for Love,Nets pick (let's say that ends up being 10th overall too in this scenario), and Crowder?
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The Celtics and a bunch of teams would call for Ayton. Phoenix would be in play.
 
Jazz4ever said:
History says it's very dangerous to make trades like this for tier 1 draft prospects like Ayton. It has to be a blow you away type scenario. Ayton at PF isn't ideal, but he is very quick for his size, more than current Favors. Much better jump shooter too, makes 48% of his jumpers. Now if it was Bamba instead of Ayton, probably would force my hand into trading him for a McCollum or Walker level player.
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Ayton isnt a PF at all. I think Ayton can be a fantastic player. I don't think the Jazz are trading away Michael Jordan and they already have a center who is capable of being a top 15 NBA player any given season.

I really don't think anyone is giving up CJ McCollum for Bamba. Ayton would be the only guy who could (though I dont think he does) drop to 5 and have a huge amount of trade value.
 
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Catchall said:
The Celtics and a bunch of teams would call for Ayton. Phoenix would be in play.
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The problem w/ Phoenix is they dont have any good established players.

For Ayton I would want a border-line All-Star and a high draft pick.

Boston would be interesting. Would they give up Jaylen Brown and the Kings 2019 pick?
 
The Jazz would also be tempted to take Ayton and listen to offers for Gobert, imo. The main reason is that Gobert has had essentially the same injury 3 times in the past year when different players have barreled into his knees. Ayton looks like he could be more durable.

The other thing is that Gobert eats up all the space inside on offense, which can stifle drives by other players. He can't draw his defender out. A big who can play outside even a little bit can open a number of offensive options. Everyone says that Favors can't play with Gobert, but some of the blame for that also falls on Gobert.

I'm not saying the Jazz would pull the trigger on a deal, but it would be a discussion. A team with Mitchell, Ayton and another lottery pick like Porter would be a solid core to build on.

The Jazz probably won't get higher than 8th or so in the draft. They'd really have to pull the red handle to get up there.
 
Either or game have to choose one and tell us why you would select that player in front of the other.

Marvin Bagley vs Luka Doncic
DeAndre Ayton vds Mo Bamba
Trae Young vs Collin Sexton
Michael Porter VS Jaren Jackson
Brandon McCoy vs Mitchell Robinson
Wendell Carter vs Robert Williams
Mikal Bridges vs Miles Bridges
Bruce Brown vs Trevon Duval
Dzunan Musa vs Hamidou Diallo
Troy Brown vs Lonnie Walker
Chimezie Metu vs Daniel Gafford
Anfernee Simons vs Grayson Allen
De'Anthony Melton vs Shake Milton
 
Xthren said:
Either or game have to choose one and tell us why you would select that player in front of the other.

Marvin Bagley vs Luka Doncic
DeAndre Ayton vds Mo Bamba
Trae Young vs Collin Sexton
Michael Porter VS Jaren Jackson
Brandon McCoy vs Mitchell Robinson
Wendell Carter vs Robert Williams
Mikal Bridges vs Miles Bridges
Bruce Brown vs Trevon Duval
Dzunan Musa vs Hamidou Diallo
Troy Brown vs Lonnie Walker
Chimezie Metu vs Daniel Gafford
Anfernee Simons vs Grayson Allen
De'Anthony Melton vs Shake Milton
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Doncic
Ayton
Young
Porter
Robinson
Williams
Brown
Musa
Walker
Gafford
Simons
Milton
 
Catchall said:
The Jazz would also be tempted to take Ayton and listen to offers for Gobert, imo. The main reason is that Gobert has had essentially the same injury 3 times in the past year when different players have barreled into his knees. Ayton looks like he could be more durable.

The other thing is that Gobert eats up all the space inside on offense, which can stifle drives by other players. He can't draw his defender out. A big who can play outside even a little bit can open a number of offensive options. Everyone says that Favors can't play with Gobert, but some of the blame for that also falls on Gobert.

I'm not saying the Jazz would pull the trigger on a deal, but it would be a discussion. A team with Mitchell, Ayton and another lottery pick like Porter would be a solid core to build on.

The Jazz probably won't get higher than 8th or so in the draft. They'd really have to pull the red handle to get up there.
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You know what would be a better core to build on? Gobert/Mitchell/Lottery pick
 
Ayton scares me. As in - I'm scared to trade him away... I think he has the potential to be an Embiid like player at least offensively without all the injury concerns. I think he can be an absolute monster. I'm not sure you can trade that.

I will be willing to take him and just put him as a Gobert insurance. If he shows a ton in his rookie year (similarly to Mitchell) and/or Gobert continues to get nicked and hobbled I might be looking to trade Gobert at the following draft for a high pick.

IMO we need to be ready to reorient our core towards Mitchell.
 
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stitches said:
Ayton scares me. As in - I'm scared to trade him away... I think he has the potential to be an Embiid like player at least offensively without all the injury concerns. I think he can be an absolute monster. I'm not sure you can trade that.
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So you just let him sit on your bench behind Rudy? A player of his profile will not take well to that. You risk having a (honestly justified) malcontent player on your bench who is just demanding trades and lowering his value.

He could be very good, but Rudy is already a top 15 NBA player. You either trade him or you trade Rudy, I don't see any other way.
 
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