Utah Trade Deadline Discussion

[LoPo]

JoeJ, Burks and Hood
for
Booker, Bayless, Korkmaz, Philly's 2018 1st and one of the 4 2nd rounders Philly has this year.

None of the guys Philly gives up are helping them this year. All 3 of the guys we give them are upgrades. Philly hasn't been in the playoffs for a long time. This trade assures them the playoffs and makes their pick late teens.

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[gomretat]

Deadline deals by Lindsey: Mack. Anyone else?
"The best trades are often the ones that don't happen": great excuse by those who are paralyzed by the fear of a move not working out or by getting back to little, slightly overpaying, etc.

Only part that was left out was, "we like our players and want to see what they can do when healthy." Lindsey's favorite label instructions are: "Lather, rinse, repeat." As Jazz fans, we better hope Exum comes back with a vengeance, Hood re-signs on the cheap and whoever Lindsey HAS to draft as the PF, because he clearly will need to pick for need as he did with Burke, turns out to be a Mitchell-type find.

You are right. My bad. DL has proved to be a sit on his hands guy.

 

[gomretat]

Didn't listen to it yet but does anybody really think DL would say anything remotely indicating that he is trading anybody? Trades fall through all the time, situations change all the time.

Careful, you are using logic.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I'm 90% confident Favors does not get traded.

 

[Coach Ellis]

I'm 90% confident Favors does not get traded.

Not that I disagree, but why do you say that?

I’ve wanted to keep him and have hoped that the Jazz could figure out how to get Gobert/Favors to work. I’m still hopeful that he’s not just an expiring.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Not that I disagree, but why do you say that?

I’ve wanted to keep him and have hoped that the Jazz could figure out how to get Gobert/Favors to work. I’m still hopeful that he’s not just an expiring.

Because he is helping the Jazz win and all you're going to get back for him is a 2nd round pick. Unless the Jazz are getting Jabari or Gordon, Favors is staying for the rest of the year.

 

[Jack Strop]

I'm 90% confident Favors does not get traded.

Not that I disagree, but why do you say that?

I’ve wanted to keep him and have hoped that the Jazz could figure out how to get Gobert/Favors to work. I’m still hopeful that he’s not just an expiring.

Outside of the Cavs, find a deal that makes sense for Utah. It just doesn't exist...at least to a contender. It's not easy to trade $12M without taking back a bad contract. And the best chance Utah had to use his expiring (Mirotic), came and went because Dennis refused to include an asset.
1. DL will not trade our 1st round pick.
2. DL will not take on a bad contract (defined as non-expiring for a player who would minimally contribute).

I think the only players who might change teams are Hood and Johnson. With Hood, maybe a late first from a contender. Jazz will buy out Johnson so he can sign with a contender.

I think Rubio is off the table (if he ever seriously was). Jazz would like to trade Burks to get out of his contract, but I don't think there's a market without a team asking for a 1st for what is a salary dump. Unfortunately, I think Chicago would have agreed to a Burks + Jazz' first (top-5 protected) for Mirotic deal a couple of weeks ago.

And it's looking probable the Jazz are going to pick in the 12-16 range. Mirotic >>> than a pick in that range.

 

[Coach Ellis]

Because he is helping the Jazz win and all you're going to get back for him is a 2nd round pick. Unless the Jazz are getting Jabari or Gordon, Favors is staying for the rest of the year.

I tend to agree. I’m glad that it’s starting to click. I like Favors and I’m enjoying this defense with Gobert back and Rubio playing at a high level.

Still hoping for an Aaaron Gordon deal, but not counting on anything. Happy to keep Favors.

 

[Quin's Murderface]

Well, I did leave out the possibility of Favors returning. I actually do think what Snyder is FINALLY doing in taking out Derrick or Rudy at ~ the 6 min mark to minimize the time they play together has worked the past several games. Also, I'm liking O'Neale. No, he doesn't give Utah the 3PT shooting that Hood does, but he's been pretty impressive with his ballhandling, passing an toughness.

It's working because Rubio is finally making layups and 3's, and INgles and Donovan are on fire. I wonder if it's sustainable, but I think at least the defense should be.

 

[Quin's Murderface]

Outside of the Cavs, find a deal that makes sense for Utah. It just doesn't exist...at least to a contender. It's not easy to trade $12M...without taking back a bad contract. And the best chance Utah had to use his expiring (Mirotic), came and went because Dennis refused to include an asset.
1. DL will not trade our 1st round pick.
2. DL will not take on a bad contract (defined as non-expiring for a player who would minimally contribute).

I think the only players who might change teams are Hood and Johnson. With Hood, maybe a late first from a contender. Jazz will buy out Johnson so he can sign with a contender.

I think Rubio is off the table (if he ever seriously was). Jazz would like to trade Burks to get out of his contract, but I don't think there's a market without a team asking for a 1st for what is a salary dump. Unfortunately, I think Chicago would have agreed to a Burks + Jazz' first (top-5 protected) for Mirotic deal a couple of weeks ago.

And it's looking probable the Jazz are going to pick in the 12-16 range. Mirotic >>> than a pick in that range.

I think you are right, but some teams that might think about Favors are: Bucks, Wizards, Cavs, Pelicans. I'm probably missing a couple others. I don't think any of those will want him badly enough to make a deal but you never know. I think it's likely that only Hood and JJ are gone as well.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

do you have kings blood ?

Not telling.

 

[Jack Strop]

I think you are right, but some teams that might think about Favors are: Bucks, Wizards, Cavs, Pelicans. I'm probably missing a couple others. I don't think any of those will want him badly enough to make a deal but you never know. I think it's likely that only Hood and JJ are gone as well.

I'm not saying a lot of teams don't have interest. But playoff teams just don't have appropriate salaries to match. I checked on every likely playoff team with the ESPN Trade Machine. Even Cleveland only has Frye at $7M and no other expiring to trade. So it's likely any deal would need to include a 3rd team.

The way this team has been playing lately - and the denial by Favors of saying he wouldn't re-sign with Utah - maybe there's a chance he stays. But it's doubtful. A lot of teams need decent bigs. I could see him getting a $20M/per contract from Atlanta, for example.