Enes Kanter or Brandon Knight?
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Meh. The great thing, though, is at #3 we are going to do well as long as we draft BPA. I think Williams just happens to be the BPA at #3, but I'd rather have Irving or Kanter, in that order.
I just really, really hope we don't get to #3, both Irving and Williams is off the board, and we go PG.
I just really, really hope we don't get to #3, both Irving and Williams is off the board, and we go PG.
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Wait...NO WAY???? You....down on Knight?
At the Start of this thread I voted Knight due to what I knew about the players at the time (I knew pretty much zero on Kanter). I would change that vote now if I could. There is no way that the Jazz should pass on Kanter (or Irving/Williams ether) to take Knight. I think Knight could be a great player but Kanter well be the better player in they both develop the way that they can.
You know about Kanter today as much as you knew at the start of the thread. You've just started to believe some of the hype visa-vi remaining objective and looking at the hard facts. It happens all the time. That's how boxing promoters can hype up obvious mismatches, like Mosley-Pacqiao, and so on...
I disagree Borat. I know a lot more now then I did when I voted. The things that turned me off about him were possible injury concerns and lack of playing/being ready to play. At the combine he prove that he was healthy and more than ready to play. I haven't bought into any hype. Just looking at what he has done this week I think that you have to put him over Knight now.
Listen, Ben, I also like hearing that PKM watched some pick-up game where he thought Kanter did well, when NBA players were involved. And btw, thanks a lot PKM for this info. I also liked that Calipari said he would pick Kanter #1. That his agent said he did well at the treadmill run, that he came in at 6-11 260 with 6% body fat. All of that is nice. But at the same time we get comments like "DraftExpress: NBA exec: If you were watching Enes Kanter or Nikola Vucevic for the 1st time yesterday, close your eyes and pick one of them from 10-20" It just depends whom you choose to believe. And that's the problem, there is no real game data to look at. Everything else just counts for so little, which is why I said you don't know much more now than before this thread started. Just because all the info collected is just not that valuable. The only data I was able to collect that shows Kanter's performance over a sustained period of time is his HS performance. From his profile on nbadraft.net: "Played one year of high school ball at Stoneridge Prep in Simi Valley, California and was somewhat inconsistent." In other words, after HS he was not considered a top guy. Knight was. After HS, Kanter player in one all star type game (and did very well in it, but still). He had a whole year at HS and was not considered by scouts based on his entire year's performance as the top guy, like Knight. Then he sat entire year, and couldn't even practice this year, while Knight, who WAS top guy in HS, led his team to #3 ranking in NCAA. All of the sudden, because of that 1 all star game, having not played in College, and not being considered top prospect after HS, Kanter is #3? While Knight, who WAS top HS prospect, and led his team as a freshman to #3 in NCAA is a chump? I don't think so. Hype, that's all this is, hype. That's how you get record crowd to watch Pacman vs Mosley, even though if you just focus on results, it's a mismatch, which shouldn't have been made.
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Gotta love the homers for these people...
To homers, Knight's ceiling is limitless. They ignore his lack of PG skills, athleticism, and shot selection. They think that since he played under Cal that he's Rose or something.
Kanter meanwhile, is the next big thing. He's going to be at least as good as Love or Boozer. In reality, maybe he'll be Al Horford (ugh... Not very good folks).
This draft sucks.
To homers, Knight's ceiling is limitless. They ignore his lack of PG skills, athleticism, and shot selection. They think that since he played under Cal that he's Rose or something.
Kanter meanwhile, is the next big thing. He's going to be at least as good as Love or Boozer. In reality, maybe he'll be Al Horford (ugh... Not very good folks).
This draft sucks.