More Mitchell Love

[Jack Strop]

I think Hayward's biggest issue is that he has as much charisma as an avocado and was never "all in" on Utah. The on court stuff DM brings is straight duck nuts, but the off court stuff (commitment, leadership, and likeability) are equally exciting. Someday I can see an all-star level player saying he came here to play with DM and Rudy... I don't know that Hayward could/would ever help in that way.

I think we were a mid-50 win team under Hayward... Under DM not much will shock me.

Never happened with Stockton or Malone. And Deron stated that was his goal. Ultimately I think that's why Williams wouldn't commit as an upcoming FA; he had likely talked with others about coming to Utah and none wanted to. I think it's more likely stars would invite Mitchell to leave for a bigger market in 7 years and join THEM, not the other way around. Jazz may get aging guys like JJ, but I'm going to be extremely surprised to see an all-star in his prime end up in Utah. But we can dream.

Or DL can go after guys like Mirotic, who did want to join the Jazz. Or this gen's versions of Okur and Boozer, players who were underutilized by their teams and looking for bigger roles.

 

[Et tu Brute]

the best thing about Donovan is that i pretty much haven't thought of Hayward one bit since December ..

This is a low key, great take.
The decimation that seemingly was pervading all things Jazz last offseason have almost been eradicated from history.

 

[Et tu Brute]

Points in regular season for a Jazz rookie :
1 Darrell Griffith 1671 Pts
2 Donovan Mitchell 1230 Pts
3 Karl Malone 1203 Pts

Points in regular season for a rookie since 2010 :
1 Blake Griffin 1845 Pts
2 Damian Lillard 1562 Pts
3 KAT 1503 Pts
8 Donovan Mitchell 1230 Pts

Points in regular season for a pick 13 rookie :
1 Donovan Mitchell 1230 Pts
2 Karl Malone 1203 Pts
3 Devin Booker 1048 Pts

Projection for DM at the end of the season : 1570 Pts

Great numbers.
My only question about DM's development is where to from here? He doesn't have to go really much further to be an amazing player - but I am wondering if he will struggle to take significant incremental steps because of the high standards he has set for himself already and because he plays massive minutes as the scoring leader on a playoff team? How many rookies have had the opportunity (not taking away the fact he forced the coaching stafff's hand) to take as many shots as he has had and to play the amount of minutes he has?
Surely it will be difficult for him to make leaps moving forward.... Maybe improved shooting % off the dribble and more focus on defense?

 

[TheStormofWar]

Great numbers.
My only question about DM's development is where to from here? He doesn't have to go really much further to be an amazing player - but I am wondering if he will struggle to take significant incremental steps because of the high standards he has set for himself already and because he plays massive minutes as the scoring leader on a playoff team? How many rookies have had the opportunity (not taking away the fact he forced the coaching stafff's hand) to take as many shots as he has had and to play the amount of minutes he has?
Surely it will be difficult for him to make leaps moving forward.... Maybe improved shooting % off the dribble and more focus on defense?

This is the one thing I wouldn't worry about, at least from DM. His work ethic would make Sloan pop a basketboner and he is always improving. He'll use the experience he's gained thus far and learn from it, like when to dish, when to shoot, and when to drive. His assists have steadily improved over the last few months as a case in point. The Jazz have to figure out is how to best surround DM and Gobert to make their lives easier.

 

[oneye]

Great numbers.
My only question about DM's development is where to from here? He doesn't have to go really much further to be an amazing player - but I am wondering if he will struggle to take significant incremental steps because of the high standards he has set for himself already and because he plays massive minutes as the scoring leader on a playoff team? How many rookies have had the opportunity (not taking away the fact he forced the coaching stafff's hand) to take as many shots as he has had and to play the amount of minutes he has?
Surely it will be difficult for him to make leaps moving forward.... Maybe improved shooting % off the dribble and more focus on defense?

I’m not at all worried about this actually. Donovan was not even close to what he is now a year ago at Louisville, and he wasn’t that good two years ago. He’s already improved in a big way his first year here. All those minutes and being allowed to make mistakes, take bad shots sometimes, and take a lot of shots every night just make for a more polished, smarter, better player even by next season.

Donovan’s not going to stop working, watching film, and improving in any way he can. It won’t be next season but he will average 30 points 7 assists and 5 rebounds at some point in his career I think. I think his shot selection and shooting percentage will get better. I think he can find ways to create contact and get more free throws every night. There’s plenty he can do and still has to do to be that super star we all know he is, but he’s going to get there. He’s going through a lot right now, but there’s no way that kid doesn’t improve significantly from here. He’s got such a drive to be great and he will be.

 

[sahlensguy]

Donovan has held himself back so much at times this year because he is a rookie and because of his humility. His production will increase in his sophomore season simply because of it.

 

[oneye]

Donovan has held himself back so much at times this year because he is a rookie and because of his humility. His production will increase in his sophomore season simply because of it.

Agreed, he’s very passive at times. Anyone who questions him improving I don’t know what else he needs to show you. He’s having to tip toe a bit this season and kind of be a rookie. I think by next season that’s changed. Right now it’s kind of his team, and he’s kind of the face of the franchise, but by next season I think you’ll see him fully take over this team and franchise and be more dominant more often.

 

[Coach Ellis]

Countdown on Most 3 point makes by a Rookie: Post Pistons - 2/12/18

1.) Damian Lillard, Portland (12/13) - 185
2.) Steph Curry, GSW (09/10) - 166
3.) Rudy Fernandez, Portland (08/09) - 159
4.) Kerry Kittles, New Jersey (96/97) - 158
T-5.) Donovan Mitchell, Utah (17/18) - 156
T-5.) Juan Carlos Navarro, Memphis (07/08) - 156

6.) Allen Iverson, Philly (96/97) - 155
7.) Matt Maloney, Houston (96/97) - 154

Donovan Mitchell (17/18) - with three more 3 pointers tonight brings his total to 156. Moves him into a tie for 5th all time.

Needs 4 to take 3rd, 11 to take 2nd and 30 to take over 1st.

14 games left to go. He needs to average 2.14 per game to do that. He’s been averaging 2.6 per game (on 7.3 attempts) since the win streak began.

 

[Coach Ellis]

Countdown on Most 3 point makes by a Rookie: Post Suns - 2/15/18

1.) Damian Lillard, Portland (12/13) - 185
2.) Steph Curry, GSW (09/10) - 166
3.) Rudy Fernandez, Portland (08/09) - 159
T-4.) Donovan Mitchell, Utah (17/18) - 158
T-4.) Kerry Kittles, New Jersey (96/97) - 158

Donovan Mitchell (17/18) - with two more 3 pointers tonight brings his total to 158. Moves him into a tie for 4th all time with Kerry Kittles and only one more before he ties Rudy Fernandez for 3rd all time.

Needs 2 to take 3rd, 9 to take 2nd and 28 to take over 1st.

13 games left to go. He needs to average 2.15 per game to do that. He’s been averaging 2.6 per game (on 7.3 attempts) since the win streak began.

 

[yamers]

Countdown on Most 3 point makes by a Rookie: Post Suns - 2/15/18

1.) Damian Lillard, Portland (12/13) - 185
2.) Steph Curry, GSW (09/10) - 166
3.) Rudy Fernandez, Portland (08/09) - 159
T-4.) Donovan Mitchell, Utah (17/18) - 158
T-4.) Kerry Kittles, New Jersey (96/97) - 158

Donovan Mitchell (17/18) - with two more 3 pointers tonight brings his total to 158. Moves him into a tie for 4th all time with Kerry Kittles and only one more before he ties Rudy Fernandez for 3rd all time.

Needs 2 to take 3rd, 9 to take 2nd and 28 to take over 1st.

13 games left to go. He needs to average 2.15 per game to do that. He’s been averaging 2.6 per game (on 7.3 attempts) since the win streak began.

well if there is a time to get hot, it's coming up on the next road trip.

 

[Coach Ellis]

Countdown on Most 3 point makes by a Rookie: Post Kings - 2/17/18

1.) Damian Lillard, Portland (12/13) - 185
2.) Steph Curry, GSW (09/10) - 166
T-3.) Donovan Mitchell, Utah (17/18) - 159
T-3.) Rudy Fernandez, Portland (08/09) - 159

Donovan Mitchell (17/18) - with one more 3 pointer tonight brings his total to 159. Moves him into a tie for 3rd all time with Rudy Fernandez

Needs 1 more to take sole possession of 3rd, 8 to take 2nd and 27 to take over 1st.

12 games left to go. He needs to average 2.25 per game to do that. He’s been averaging 2.6 per game (on 7.3 attempts) since the win streak began.

Even with an off night, he’s still right on target.

 

[Ironankle]

19.9 pts per game...! My god! I still can't believe how lucky we are to have this guy on the team... I think I don't really completly realise yet... crazy

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