How did Exum look last night?

[gregbroncs]

Rubio only has 1 year left. He's having a career year this year and maybe he does the same again next season and then "Hill's" the Jazz. Then DL could say "see ya later" because Dante is ready to be the starter.

Really doesnt matter who starts. All three could get 30 mins in a 3-man rotation. Or you keep them slightly under to create some PT for Royce.

I do think the Jazz need to find a shooter at the 4, though.

Jerebko, And Crowder are shooters at the 4.

 

[gregbroncs]

He needs more minutes... not sure where they come from but I need more Dante.

I think they can come from a few places. Some from O'neal, some from Rubio and some from Donovan and Ingles. I love Donovan and Ingles but they don't need more than 32-35 minutes per night and lately they have been getting more than that.

Since X's Return he's been averaging 14.7 minutes which is a little skewed because he had 27 when Rubio Missed a game.
Ingles has averaged 34.2.
Mitchell has averaged 37.4
Rubio has averaged 32.8

All of those numbers are a little skewed because of 3 blowouts in that time in which the 3 starters got far less minutes than they otherwise do like 5 minutes less in each blowout. Also there was an overtime game in which they all played 5 extra minutes, but that does not correct for the 3 blowouts.

So X could and should get a couple minutes from each of them and then should also be getting more of Royce's minutes and Burks should never play. That would get Exum to 20 MPG minimum and he deserves at least that. Honestly he should probably be getting more than that the way he has played lately but I don't know where those would come from unless they started coming from Crowder and Jerebko which they probably should, if he keeps playing like he currently is.

Honestly what he's doing looks sustainable to me. Maybe not the impact he's having, but the way he's playing does seem sustainable.

 

[MVP]

Who say he was the worst in the nba based on that stat, so obviously now he must be the best on the Jazz by your standard. At least in these games so far.

True. But we comparing whole season with few games. Andrea Bargnani had 13 game stretch in his career where he was posting insane numbers like 30pts/10 reb per game, and 60% FG and 50% 3 pt shooting. Where is he now BTW?

 

[Getting Traded]

I love it when we point to historically worst PER ever after Exum's first season some people quickly dismiss it as "PER is useless stat". Yet here we see PER used after few games to tell that Exum is great? There is no question kid looks much better - but the sample is very limited. How about we let him have at least 30-40 games and then talk how good or bad he is.

I don't think we need 40 games to see what is obvious already. He's stronger, more confident, more mature, and definitely better.

 

[Ron Mexico]

True. But we comparing whole season with few games. Andrea Bargnani had 13 game stretch in his career where he was posting insane numbers like 30pts/10 reb per game, and 60% FG and 50% 3 pt shooting. Where is he now BTW?

Thats why stats dont tell the whole story. There are a lot of things to players beyond stats. also one stat isnt the whole story by itself. Exum isnt the best player in the NBA right now, nor was he the worst player ever in his rookie year like his PER might indicate.

But right now I think its pretty easy to see that Exum is playing really well. making a huge difference on the court and pretty much every stat backs that up.

Do you think he is playing poorly right now?

 

[MVP]

Do you think he is playing poorly right now?

Last few games he certainly played his best ball of his life.

 

[Hitman]

I love it when we point to historically worst PER ever after Exum's first season some people quickly dismiss it as "PER is useless stat". Yet here we see PER used after few games to tell that Exum is great? There is no question kid looks much better - but the sample is very limited. How about we let him have at least 30-40 games and then talk how good or bad he is.

Who is this "we"? You're the one (and the only one) who made a song and dance about his low PER, now it's swung the other way you're the one finding ways to dismiss it.

 

[Miggs]

Never has that changed. Please note where I have said one stat is the most meaningful.

Just like in this case, you showed some stats that are positive for Exum and I showed some more stats that were positive for him. I even said I didnt think they were sustainable but showed he is playing pretty well. But I also have thought he has played well before but just inconsistent for a variety of reasons.

Do you think he is not playing well?

Is your best argument for everything ROFL? It is one of your better points.

Yes, I rofl at ridiculous statements. Here's the bottom line for you. The stats that favor Mitchell are those which you support. Those which favor Simmons (most stats fwiw) don't mean ****. Whatevs. I shouldn't have even opened my mouth again. It's an act in futility.

 

[fishonjazz]

Kid Flash? That fits Donovan better than Exum. X Factor, or X for short. Can't get much better than that.

Kid flash indicates speed to me. I think of Dante more than Donavan when I think of the word speed.

I like to just use X though. Laziness ftw

 

[fishonjazz]

I love it when we point to historically worst PER ever after Exum's first season some people quickly dismiss it as "PER is useless stat". Yet here we see PER used after few games to tell that Exum is great? There is no question kid looks much better - but the sample is very limited. How about we let him have at least 30-40 games and then talk how good or bad he is.

Have you not talked about how good or bad he is? Pretty sure you have. Wait 30 or 40 games first please.

Or is that we can only talk about how he is looking if he is looking bad. If he looks good then hold off on praising him until there is a bigger sample size but if he sucks then let’s talk about it right?

 

[FalseFlagg K]

you know who actually sucks ?? Shelvin Mack

 

[Ron Mexico]

Yes, I rofl at ridiculous statements. Here's the bottom line for you. The stats that favor Mitchell are those which you support. Those which favor Simmons (most stats fwiw) don't mean ****. Whatevs. I shouldn't have even opened my mouth again. It's an act in futility.

I am not sure why you are switching this to something else and picking argument over a post in which I agreed with you. You showed positive stats for Exum and I agreed and showed some more. But I guess if you want to jump to a different argument that is not about my post lets have at it.

So, where I have said Simmons is better at things and I have shown stats to show Simmons is better doesnt count? Got it.

Carry on trying to make up an argument about nothing.

You should have stuck with the ROFL, like I said its your best argument.

I guess you are trying to take over for NAOS, someone has to be the negative contrarian who likes to pick fights in multiple threads about the same thing.


If your whole point is I to show that I like to show some negative things about Simmons and positive things about Mitchell, yes you got me. I like to cheer for my team. I also like to point out to our Australian/Simmons fan boys that Mitchell is better at some things.

Maybe you should start some more threads about how our team sucks or that Mitchell sucks to vent?