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Saint Cy of JFC said:
All grades are relative to my expectations for each individual player.

DL: He traded for Mitchell and signed solid players: A+

Quin: The team is playing really good : A

Mitchell: He is the best rookie in this draft class : A+

Gobert: He is still a god, but missed a lot of games: A

Rubio: He is the best, but had a bad January: A-

Favors: Favors is really nice: B+

Ingles: He does more but still shoots really great: A+

Exum: He got injured for nearly the whole year but has been great lately : B+

Hood: He scored a lot and won us some games we probably wouldnt have won otherwise during the low point without Gobert. Still got injured, but was overall good: B-

Thabo: He was really good then he got injured : B

Royce O'Neale: Probably our best perimeter defender, but has gotten sloppy lately: B-

Jae Crowder: He is cool and fits personality wise, but he is pretty mediocre as a shooter and just OK as a defender: B-

Jerebko: He is OK and a better shooter than I'd thought he be: B-

Udoh: Great defender and terrible on offense, better than I expected: B+

Neto: Neto was good: B-

Burks: He had a good little run, but other than that has been mostly bad. Thought he might take a bit of step this year. D+

Bradley: Doesnt play : C

Joe Johnson: He was really bad: F
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These are almost exactly the grades I'd give. Definitely an A+ for DL. People who are docking him for Hayward are pretending to know stuff that I don't believe they do/did. DL's track record is strong enough that I believe him when he says he expected Hayward to stay. And despite the ridiculous way Hayward left, and the compromised position he put the team in, DL found a way to put a winner on the floor. Simply incredible! I'm amazed that people expect more of him and I'm happy to see that there is at least one other who agrees with me.

My only adjustments are that I'd give an A+ for Snyder. Again, I have a hard time imagining what more he could possibly do. I believe he and his staff are the biggest reason that virtually all of our players are performing above expectations. I think I'd give Johnson a D and Crowder a B+ because he has an intangible presence that I love. I'd drop Hood to a C or even a C-. When presented with a golden opportunity he checked himself out of the opening day lineup, and seemed to find reasons to sit throughout the year.
 
David Stern said:
It's DL's fault that Hayward left a year earlier than he should have. DL royally screwed up that contract. Would he still have left? Probably. But, we let our best player walk for nothing and some of you guys are acting like he's the slam-dunk executive of the year. He's done a good job this year, but he's been a really average GM outside of drafting.
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A.) It’s true that he should’ve handled the Hayward RFA situation better. Would’ve been nice to have him for two more seasons at under $20 million per year.

B.) Not sure how you can say he’s been average outside of drafting.

Since he won control over executive decisions in 2014, he has hired Quin Snyder, signed Trevor Booker, picked up Jingles off waivers, traded Enes Kanter (for the 1st round pick that would later be traded for Ricky Rubio), traded a 2nd round pick for Shelvin Mack, oversaw the move (and re-branding) of the Idaho Stampede into the Salt Lake City Stars, traded a 1st round pick (in a weak draft) for George Hill, traded away Trey Burke (for a future 2nd round pick), signed Joe Jesus, extended Rudy Gobert, got San Antonio to give him a 2nd round pick and cash for Fat Boris, traded Trey “we talkin’ bout 3 hour practice” Lyles and the 24th pick in the draft for ROY candidate stud franchise altering superstar - Donovan Mitchell, didn’t overpay to keep George Hill, but stole Ricky “Prettyboy Spainiard” Rubio for the pick that came from getting rid of Kanter, added Ekpe Udoh, Thabo Sefalosha and Jonas Jerebko for team friendly two year contracts, discovered Royce O’Neale, extended Jingles for a reasonable team friendly contract, traded Joe Johnson and Rodney Hood for Jae Crowder, has used the Stars as a player development investment tool for the young guys. . . oh. . . and brought David Stockton in for a helluva feel good story this year.

His biggest misstep outside of not giving Hayward the 5 year max was signing Tibor Pleiss to a crap contract and then selling two 2nd round picks in a strong draft to get rid of him.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
These are almost exactly the grades I'd give. Definitely an A+ for DL. People who are docking him for Hayward are pretending to know stuff that I don't believe they do/did. DL's track record is strong enough that I believe him when he says he expected Hayward to stay. And despite the ridiculous way Hayward left, and the compromised position he put the team in, DL found a way to put a winner on the floor. Simply incredible! I'm amazed that people expect more of him and I'm happy to see that there is at least one other who agrees with me.

My only adjustments are that I'd give an A+ for Snyder. Again, I have a hard time imagining what more he could possibly do. I believe he and his staff are the biggest reason that virtually all of our players are performing above expectations. I think I'd give Johnson a D and Crowder a B+ because he has an intangible presence that I love. I'd drop Hood to a C or even a C-. When presented with a golden opportunity he checked himself out of the opening day lineup, and seemed to find reasons to sit throughout the year.
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I believe that if there is a hole in the roster then the gm cant get an A+. Bench scoring is a hole.
 
fishonjazz said:
I believe that if there is a hole in the roster then the gm cant get an A+. Bench scoring is a hole.
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This team is a stepping stone on the way to becoming elite. The fact that it is not a finished product in the first year after they got screwed by a guy they invested everything in is to be expected, and not a knock against the GM to me... especially because the second unit will look a lot different with Dante.
 
fishonjazz said:
I believe that if there is a hole in the roster then the gm cant get an A+. Bench scoring is a hole.
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They started off with Hood/Joe Jesus in those roles, but circumstances dictated trading both of them. They could’ve tried harder to move Burks, but that might’ve cost them a significant asset. The roster was expected to perform significantly less that it has over the course of the year. There’s always holes on a roster. It’s very, very rarely perfect. Injuries, deterioration of skill and bad luck always creates some issues that require attention the next year. DL has done enough to put this team within a stone’s throw of 3rd place in the BRUTAL western conference. That’s an A+ considering that they’ve lost or traded 5 of their top 7 scorers from last year - 1.) Hayward, 2.) Hill, 4.) Hood, 6.) Johnson, 7.) Mack. That’s insane.
 
After last nights game...... A+ all around.

Im thinking that right now Jerebko > crowder, only thing is that crowder can play the 3 and Jonas cant.
 
fishonjazz said:
After last nights game...... A+ all around.

Im thinking that right now Jerebko > crowder, only thing is that crowder can play the 3 and Jonas cant.
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Perhaps, but Crowder helps the Jazz in a lot of ways. The summer should help him fully assimilate and work out some of the kinks in his game. I still <3 Crowder.
 
fishonjazz said:
Im thinking that right now Jerebko > crowder, only thing is that crowder can play the 3 and Jonas cant.
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I prefer Jae, but I think both have been excellent. The two of them plus O'Neale are our cutters too. I'm sure lots of the guys move great without the ball when I'm looking elsewhere, but those three are remarkably good at cutting and finishing (or drawing a foul) when no one else seems to bother/have the legs/be aware that it's needed.
 
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