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Sorry Jazz fans – Ben is the NBA Rookie of the Year

No doubt. What did they have 22 turnovers at the half? I just caught that they’d set a new record.

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Ron Mexico said:
Simmons might get a quadruple double this game Points, Rebounds, Assists and Turnovers.
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Everyone make sure to reply to every positive Ben Simmons tweet by national media and mention he had 7 turnovers. Let’s see if we can out douche philly... it will be tough but I believe in our ability to be aholes
 
Ben was the best player of the match today again with 17/13/10/4. Wade was the best player in the 2nd match, but Ben was man of the match in 3 matches out of 4. Amazing performance for a rookie.
 
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What's your point? DM has been our best in both games, and probably will be again tonight.


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utahjazzz said:
Ben was the best player of the match today again with 17/13/10/4. He was man of the match in 3 matches out of 4. Amazing perfornance for a rookie.
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So many turnovers though... he’s a volume assist guy.
 
utahjazzz said:
Ben was the best player of the match today again with 17/13/10/4. Wade was the best player in the 2nd match, but Ben was man of the match in 3 matches out of 4. Amazing performance for a rookie.
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You missed the other important stat. He nearly pulled down the quad double with 7 TOs. Noice
 
Simmons has a very high usage rate. The other players on his team dont get many assists. Outside of Embiid they don't have good rebounders either.
So Simmons has a ton of rebounds cause he's a 7 foot guard who get the rebounds his teammates dont get cause they aren't effective. Does that mean he's very good, or are his teammates bad? Maybe both.
Simmons can't shoot, and that is something that you either can or can't do. This is his 2nd year in the NBA it's not like all of the sudden in year 3 he'll just be good. Look at his shot, it isn't smooth and his release is stiff.
Simmons awesome but has major problems with his game. Mitchell has no major flaws in his game. Both players lucked out and happen to play for there perfect matched teams. Both deserve roy. Simmons will win it but it's not entirely fair.

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utahjazzz said:
Being a Jazz fan does not mean I have to be biased towards Mitchell. Stats wise Simmons is the better player.
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Simmons broke his foot, and it was well documented that he was practicing 5 on 5 with his team by December 2016. Philly knew there was no reason to bring him in mid season on a loosing campaign so they kept him out the rest of the year. However, he was practicing and learning the team, the coach, the organization for over a full year. He could've played for them in January, but what was the point? They kept him out.
D. Mitch, got drafted to a team he was unfamiliar with, didn't get time to learn the team and coach in the way that Simmons got to. Came out with all odds against him and showed the world why he is the best rookie of his class.
To me it seems that Mitchell is the real rookie and the most deserving of all credit.
 
I fully concede...Simmons is the best 2nd year rookie this season.
 
nateboz said:
Simmons has a very high usage rate. The other players on his team dont get many assists. Outside of Embiid they don't have good rebounders either.
So Simmons has a ton of rebounds cause he's a 7 foot guard who get the rebounds his teammates dont get cause they aren't effective. Does that mean he's very good, or are his teammates bad? Maybe both.
Simmons can't shoot, and that is something that you either can or can't do. This is his 2nd year in the NBA it's not like all of the sudden in year 3 he'll just be good. Look at his shot, it isn't smooth and his release is stiff.
Simmons awesome but has major problems with his game. Mitchell has no major flaws in his game. Both players lucked out and happen to play for there perfect matched teams. Both deserve roy. Simmons will win it but it's not entirely fair.

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Simmons: 17 points on 13 shots and with 10 assists Mitchell: 22 points on 20 shots and with 2 assists Do you understand?
 
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