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Flynn & 2nd Pick for Bell & 3rd Pick

I am just wondering how many people that are kanter lovers have watched the kid play at all. They hear kanter the next malone and they are all on board with this kid. Every year fans are sold on one person without even watching him play at all. I think after last years draft I will trust the jazz in who they draft before I put faith in what fans say.

DraftExpress Jonathan Givony
Not dropping, just like he wasn't rising earlier. Perception is a funny thing. RT @Jonatansimon: Why is Kanter droping so fast in the mocks?

Weaknesses: One of the big concerns scouts have with Kanter is his physical health. He has had a history of knee problems and there are concerns about his knees not checking out 100% when he has NBA physicals … Foot speed is good but not at the level of some of the top inside forces in the NBA … Played one year of high school ball at Stoneridge Prep in Simi Valley, California and was somewhat inconsistent …

hope he isn't a Curtis Borchardt part two
 
not going to happen they already have their choice of Williams or Kanter and i think that they are leaning towards kanter so why take the risk that they Jazz are going to take Kanter? it doesnt make since
 
shadler said:
I am just wondering how many people that are kanter lovers have watched the kid play at all. They hear kanter the next malone and they are all on board with this kid. Every year fans are sold on one person without even watching him play at all. I think after last years draft I will trust the jazz in who they draft before I put faith in what fans say.

DraftExpress Jonathan Givony
Not dropping, just like he wasn't rising earlier. Perception is a funny thing. RT @Jonatansimon: Why is Kanter droping so fast in the mocks?
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If I am not mistaken, someone on here said Givony didn't like Hayward either. These experts are never going to be 100% right. Chad Ford liked Darko. He also sees Kanter's seeing as a tougher Boozer with better defense. At least that's what he said in a podcast. It's tough to really know how things will turn out. I will pull for whichever players they go with.
 
trigg3r said:
If I am not mistaken, someone on here said Givony didn't like Hayward either. These experts are never going to be 100% right. Chad Ford liked Darko. He also sees Kanter's seeing as a tougher Boozer with better defense. At least that's what he said in a podcast. It's tough to really know how things will turn out. I will pull for whichever players they go with.
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I would hope he would play better D the boozer. Signing boozer will cost the bulls for many years to come and I doubt they will ever win a championship with him on the team..
 
Flynn will return more to Minny than just Raja.
Jazz needed cash from NJ --I doubt they have a pile laying around.
Minny may trade the 2nd pick, but it will be for more picks.
 
trigg3r said:
If I am not mistaken, someone on here said Givony didn't like Hayward either.
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Who's to say he's wrong? Hayward played very well in the last few games of the season, but I'd like to see him do it over the course of a season before I declare that someone was right or wrong about him. He showed promise. Nothing more.
 
Also, regarding the "Bell to Minnesota" rumors, do you really think Minnesota called the Jazz and asked about Bell? I have to think that the "rumored" deal would have been something to the effect of Bell and future considerations (read: loosening or removing the restrictions on the draft pick owed them) to Minnesota for a future second round pick. Minnesota would likely have bought out Bell's remaining contract and that would have been that. I really doubt they were looking to acquire Bell as a player.
 
YB85 said:
Who's to say he's wrong? Hayward played very well in the last few games of the season, but I'd like to see him do it over the course of a season before I declare that someone was right or wrong about him. He showed promise. Nothing more.
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By no means has Hayward proven he is going to be something amazing. I will say he was very solid when he seemed to get more comfortable. I will go out on a limb and proclaim that Givony will be proven wrong on Hayward. Not really a stretch to say that.
 
I don't mind if these so-called "draft experts" state their opinion on someone and are wrong, but the one thing that does bother me is when they mis-"report" things. I believe it was Givony who stated that Kanter had bad knees and then when the medical testing was released he was the first to state that his knees checked out just fine. Also, he stated that Kanter was inconsistent at Stoneridge, but I've read other reports that the guy averaged 30-35 pts and 20+ rebs. Not saying Givony is wrong on that one, but someone was. This is all probably just a reflection on what our media/news are becoming. It's more speculation than stating facts.
 
From reading the Twolves fans they like bell but they are putting way too much into the second pick and want more then what they are going to get. With the lockout it might make the wolves do something small like that but who knows. They are not a fan of that pick at all but not sure they can get what they want for it either for it. Who is going to give up a good player on their team? I could see something like this happen but not sure the jazz would want to move up unless it is irving.
 
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