Following Potential 2018 Draftees

[zyzz]

So Locke has been spot on in calling who the Jazz will draft over the last five years or so, by continually hyping a player. He hasn't been obvious this year with who he loves, has he? In other words, there isn't some guy Locke is always hyping this year, is there?

Also, I'll be livid if we draft Brunson. Livid.

I feel like he isn't as involved this year in terms of looking at prospects himself because of his podcast business. Usually at this time he's made draft breakdown pods/vids of individual guys. This year seems like it could go either way with a huge group of guys being in one tier. Also with Locke saying to look at guys who will stick around in the league and Perrin saying they want a guy with huge upside. Don't know what's a smokescreen and what isn't.

 

[Deleted member 5000]

Y'all think we'd be getting in all these guys for workouts if it weren't for DM45~!

Everyone knows that no prospects had ever come to workout for us before Mitchell got here.

 

[SCS]

I don't see the Jazz drafting Jalen Brunson or any other pure PG at 21. That player would just end up in the role Neto is currently in for multiple years most likely. I'm fairly certain that we will keep Dante this summer. I would say that odds are good that we re-sign Rubio next year too. Why would the Jazz use the 21st pick on a 3rd PG that lacks position versatility? Not very good value. I don't think DL would make a decision like that.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Okobo could become the PGOTF. He wouldn't be the 3rd guard. Also, the Jazz might play Exum off the ball as much as on the ball.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

@Saint Cy of JFC you said you've watched like... 5-6 games of Okobo. I've only seen 2. Tony Jones asked him about his playmaking and I've heard others question it. Have you noticed anything to worry about in that aspect? From what I've seen I cannot fathom how someone can watch him and have questions about his playmaking and decisionmaking. I felt like was damn near perfect in his reads and very accurate with his passes. I would put it very firmly into the strengths category. My question is - did I catch the two weird games where he was unusually great making reads and decisions with the ball in his hands and passing teammates open, or is this some old worry about his game that he's rectified?

I think it's more of a question from his previous season.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Comparing Anfernee Simons to Zhaire Smith...

Z. Smith: height w/o shoes - 6'2.75", wingspan - 6'9.75", standing reach - 8'4", weight - 198 lbs, age - 19.0, max vert - 41.5

A. Simons: height w/o shoes - 6'2.25", wingspan - 6'9.25", standing reach - 8'3.5", weight - 183 lbs, age - 19.0, max vert - 41.5

They're the freaking same age, like born the same week, and Simons is within a half inch on every measurement. Simons is a much better offensive player, and Smith is a much better defensive player at this stage.

The only question with Simons is whether he can add strength and defend. If he can, he's a steal in our draft range. Depending on how teams value offense vs. defense and project improvement, an argument can be made that they're in the same tier as 19 year-old prospects.

 

[Keefe]

Okobo could become the PGOTF. He wouldn't be the 3rd guard. Also, the Jazz might play Exum off the ball as much as on the ball.

I don't see this at all. PGOTF when? I think Rubio loves it here and we love him here and I see no way we don't re-sign him. So Okobo would take over when? In five years? And if we don't re-sign Rubio, then what? Okobo starts in 2019? That would set us back a couple of years imo. No way Okobo could bring to the table near what Rubio does for quite a long time imo.

 

[Keefe]

Was Trae Young's assist % really 48.6%? WTF isn't that insanely high?

 

[NCJazz]

Musa had 21pts in the Croatian League final. Pretty impressive what he is doing as a 19 year old as well. Just turned 19. One of the youngest in the draft.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I don't see this at all. PGOTF when? I think Rubio loves it here and we love him here and I see no way we don't re-sign him. So Okobo would take over when? In five years? And if we don't re-sign Rubio, then what? Okobo starts in 2019? That would set us back a couple of years imo. No way Okobo could bring to the table near what Rubio does for quite a long time imo.

Rubio's lack of shooting puts a ceiling on what the Jazz can be. Okobo has easy range out to 27 feet and he also finishes pretty well at the rim.

 

[Keefe]

Musa had 21pts in the Croatian League final. Pretty impressive what he is doing as a 19 year old as well.

Mitchell, Musa, Exum on the court together court be interesting.

Or maybe Rubio, Mitchell, Exum, Brown.

 

[Game6Conley]

Comparing Anfernee Simons to Zhaire Smith...

Z. Smith: height w/o shoes - 6'2.75", wingspan - 6'9.75", standing reach - 8'4", weight - 198 lbs, age - 19.0, max vert - 41.5

A. Simons: height w/o shoes - 6'2.25", wingspan - 6'9.25", standing reach - 8'3.5", weight - 183 lbs, age - 19.0, max vert - 41.5

They're the freaking same age, like born the same week, and Simons is within a half inch on every measurement. Simons is a much better offensive player, and Smith is a much better defensive player at this stage.

The only question with Simons is whether he can add strength and defend. If he can, he's a steal in our draft range. Depending on how teams value offense vs. defense and project improvement, an argument can be made that they're in the same tier as 19 year-old prospects.

Thats not the only question; Can he play PG in the future? is one well worth asking.

If he can, scooping him up at 21 would be a major win.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Okobo could become the PGOTF. He wouldn't be the 3rd guard. Also, the Jazz might play Exum off the ball as much as on the ball.

I think Cy throughout a Deangelo Russell comp... if Russell was more mature and serious he’d be great... health has been an issue.

Part of the reason I like Okobo is I think he can play alongside any of our backcourt guys... I don’t know that you want Ricky and Exum on the court together. If we want a guy that can score and break down the defense I don’t think anyone else is better.

I’d be okay with taking Simons but am weary of guys that skip development stages... unless they are insane talents like Lebron, KG, etc I worry they don’t get the time to develop all the right habits and skills because they move into survival mode.

 

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[Handlogten's Heros]

Rubio's lack of shooting puts a ceiling on what the Jazz can be. Okobo has easy range out to 27 feet and he also finishes pretty well at the rim.

The hesitation dribble and side step step back stuff paired with his shooting gets me excited. Sounds like he may be rough on defense right now.

 

[Keefe]

Rubio's lack of shooting puts a ceiling on what the Jazz can be. Okobo has easy range out to 27 feet and he also finishes pretty well at the rim.

He shot over 41% the last 40 games of the year from 3. I don't see that being an anomaly or an issue. Rubio's also light years ahead of him defensively and in running an offense.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

He shot over 41% the last 40 games of the year from 3. I don't see that being an anomaly or an issue. Rubio's also light years ahead of him defensively and in running an offense.

Catch and shoot he is good enough... was 38% for the year... pull up he is bad... 28% this year and 22% last year. The pullup three is deadly because guys can't sag off when you have a live dribble... open up more drives, and pick and roll opportunities.

Okobo, if he develops, can play with Exum Ricky. It isn't just shooting it is creation.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

He shot over 41% the last 40 games of the year from 3. I don't see that being an anomaly or an issue. Rubio's also light years ahead of him defensively and in running an offense.

Rubio also turns 28 this year. Sign him to a 3 year extension this off-season the he has 4 years left. Okobo could be the starting PG after those 4 years = PGOTF

 

[Keefe]

Rubio also turns 28 this year. Sign him to a 3 year extension this off-season the he has 4 years left. Okobo could be the starting PG after those 4 years = PGOTF

And what? Okobo's gonna be cool with just riding the pine for four years and want to re-sign with us then?

 

[seattlejazzfan]

Was Trae Young's assist % really 48.6%? WTF isn't that insanely high?

trae young is a ridiculously good passer and playmaker. people don't understand the offensive load he had to carry on the OU team which accounts for the high turnovers - dude just had to take a ton of risks in order for his team to score points. those are essentially coach sanctioned turnovers. his vision and passing are elite from a college guard, let alone a true frosh.