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SCS said:
Are there any players you guys are really interested in for the Jazz at 52? Or in the second round in general? Right now my favorite second round guy is Gary Clark. I like him a lot. I'm also intrigued by Rawle Alkins and Penava. Somewhat intrigued by Wenyen Gabriel just because he's so young still.
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I like young Maker if you want to gamble
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I !like Tony Carr from Penn State. A big lead guard. Six foot 5 and from Philly and has that tough Philly game. I think he going be a steal. I called the last psu NBA player and that was Frazier. Carr will be a NBA player
Kostas be another gamble
Svi from Kansas .still 20 years old and has duel citizenship so he can go off to Europe for couple years of you 2 way him
 
Qman said:
Exum has been hurt. Hard to improve when you cannot play.

Trey Burke simply wasn't talented enough and by his own admission had a poor attitude.

Alec Burks has always been a mystery. Why can't he play well in Snyder's offensive system?
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they have had other whiffs just like every team.
 
I feel like scouts and pundits are underrating Grayson Allen. He can finish, great outside stroke with a quick release and is strong, contact doesn’t bother him and intense competitor. Maybe it’s the on court antics, but if I recall, CP3 had a history of some of the same thing in college, just not as well documented due to him playing only a year in college where as Allen did 4 years.

I’m also not worried about his age. He averaged 21 a game as a sophomore when they won the chip. He should’ve gone pro then, heard he loved college life though.


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Kevin Huerter | SG | Age: 19.7 | Maryland
Strengths

  • Good positional size at 6-7¼ in shoes. Still only 19.7 years old despite being a sophomore -- younger than freshmen Michael Porter Jr., Mohamed Bamba and Deandre Ayton. Solid athlete.

  • Complete offensive player. Great balance on his catch-and-shoot jumper. In the 88th percentile as a spot-up player. Excellent timing attacking closeouts. Can sprint off screens into shots with range. Tremendous balance. Ball comes out cleanly. Outstanding passer out of a variety of actions. Quick thinker out of pindowns. Can see over the top out of pick-and-roll, uses both sides of the floor. Hits the roller comfortably. Delivers the ball with either hand. Can rise into pull-ups off the dribble or get to the rim in space. Touch on floaters. Smart cutter. Had 64.2 true shooting percentage as a freshman.

  • High intangibles. Competitive. Rebounds his position. Tremendous feel. Impressing teams throughout the interview process. Will maximize his potential.
Improvement areas

  • Not a prolific or overtly aggressive scorer -- 15.0 points per 40 minutes in two seasons at Maryland. Comfortable ball-handler but not overly shifty.

  • Shies away from contact at times in the paint. Shot only 3.6 free throws per 40 minutes as a sophomore and 1.2 as a freshman. Wants to load up off two feet.

  • Defensive upside is a bit limited. Not overly long for his position. Can be a bit upright on the perimeter. Caught on screens. Doesn't quite have the frame to contain legitimate NBA wings right now.
Projected role: High-IQ shotmaker



Physical Comps
PLAYER AGE HEIGHT WEIGHT WINGSPAN
Kevin Huerter 19.7 6-7.25 194 6-7.5
Tim Hardaway Jr 21.3 6-6.25 199 6-7
Evan Fournier 19.6 6-7 204 6-8.25
Nik Stauskas 20.6 6-6.5 207 6-7.75


Elie Okobo | PG | Age: 20.6 | Pau-Orthez

Strengths

  • Nice size and length. Frame has improved. Smooth athlete. Can play at different speeds. Shows flashes as a defender.

  • Extremely productive and an NBA-caliber shotmaker with deep range. Streaky and shoots a bit of a set shot with a low release point but he made a big jump this year with his consistency -- 41.3 percent from 3 on 172 attempts. Punishes guards for going under screens. Creates space with step backs. Really comfortable off the dribble. Savvy pick-and-roll player with 3-level scoring potential. Knows how to manipulate ball screens. Soft touch on floaters. Had 63.4 true shooting percentage in 35 Pro A games last season.

  • Improving facilitator. Can make pick-and-roll pocket passes. Shows flashes of creativity on the move. High intangible prospect.
Improvement areas

  • Still developing his PG skills. Gets a bit lackadaisical with his handle against ball pressure. Plays a bit upright. Not always the most comfortable playmaker in traffic. Inaccurate passes. Doesn't always have the best feel for when to facilitate and when to get his own shot. Wants to settle for tough pull-ups. More of a ball-screen player than one-on-one shot creator.

  • Not always the most engaged on- or off-ball defender. Relaxes in his stance too often. Needs to play with more consistent effort on that end.

  • Benefited from having ultimate freedom with Pau-Orthez. Has battled bouts of inefficiency (31.3 2-point percentage at the 2017 under-20s) and inconsistency in the past. Struggles to finish through contact. Still improving his off hand.
Projected role: Shotmaking bench guard



Physical Comps
PLAYER AGE HEIGHT WEIGHT WINGSPAN
Elie Okobo 20.6 6-3 180 6-8
Avery Bradley 19.5 6-3.25 180 6-7.25
Cameron Payne 20.7 6-1.5 183 6-7.25
George Hill 22.1 6-2.5 181 6-9

Troy Brown | SG/SF | Age: 18.8 | Oregon
Strengths

  • Good combination of size, length and frame for a NBA wing. Big enough to play some small-ball 4.

  • Versatile player. Grew up playing point guard. Good passer with a high basketball IQ. Moves the ball ahead regularly. Keeps the offense flowing with timely feeds. Tough, competitive defender who should be able to guard anywhere from 1-4. Unselfish player who likes doing the little things. Willing rebounder. Good cutter. Jumper isn't broken. Made 74 percent of his free throws.

  • Doesn't turn 19 until the end of July. Third youngest college player projected to be drafted. Very strong background. Consistently described as an outstanding teammate and worker.
Improvement areas

  • Wasn't overly productive offensively in college. Struggled to score efficiently as a freshman. Seemed to lose his confidence at times. Made just 29 percent of his 3s.

  • Just an average athlete. Lacks explosiveness and wiggle with his first step. Wasn't able to consistently create shots off the dribble for himself as a freshman.

  • Youth and lack of impact on a non-NCAA tournament team means he likely needs a few years to develop.
Projected role: Versatile 3-and-D wing



Physical Comps
PLAYER AGE HEIGHT WEIGHT WINGSPAN
Troy Brown 18.8 6-6.75 208 6-10.25
Danny Green 22 6-6.5 208 6-10
Khris Middleton 20.9 6-8.25 216 6-10.75
Evan Turner 21.7 6-7 214 6-8
 
Keita Bates-Diop | SF/PF | Age: 22.3 | Ohio State
Strengths

  • Prototypical size, length and frame for a combo forward. Big enough to play some 5 in smaller lineups.

  • Versatile and prolific scorer at the college level. Made almost two 3s. Can handle the ball smoothly with long strides. Good in the open floor. Can shoot off the dribble with a high release point.

  • Has impressive potential defensively when dialed in. Can switch onto guards, wings, forwards and big men alike. Uses his length to get in the passing lanes and make plays around the rim. Solid rebounder.
Improvement areas

  • Doesn't always play with a consistently high energy level, particularly defensively.

  • Shot-selection leaves something to be desired at times.

  • Second-oldest prospect projected to be picked in the first round after Grayson Allen. Wasn't overly impressive his first three years at Ohio State. Missed most of 2016-17 season with a foot injury.
Projected role: Two-way combo forward



Physical Comps
PLAYER AGE HEIGHT WEIGHT WINGSPAN
Keita Bates-Diop 22.3 6-8.5 224 7-3.25
Rudy Gay 19.9 6-8 222 7-3
Marvin Williams 19 6-8.25 228 7-3.5
Al-Farouq Aminu 19.8 6-8.5 216 7-3.25

Donte DiVincenzo | PG/SG | Age: 21.3 | Villanova

Strengths

  • Good size for a combo guard at a shade under 6-5. Strong frame. Terrific athlete. Has 42-inch vertical.

  • Tough, physical and aggressive defender. Picks up opponents full-court and is very disruptive. Great instincts and awareness helping off the ball. Active hands. Puts his body on the line. Steps in for charges. Dives on the floor for loose balls.

  • High-level shooter with deep range and a beautiful stroke. Quick release and unlimited confidence. Makes deep pull-ups from well beyond the NBA line. Doesn't turn it over. Plays with zero fear. Team player.
Improvement areas

  • His 6-6 wingspan may make it difficult for him to defend bigger wings. At his best guarding point guards

  • Average ball-handler. At his best playing alongside another playmaker. Struggles to create in the half court. Picks up his dribble. Doesn't get to the free throw line much.

  • Age 21 and only really had one standout season in college. Wasn't considered an early-entry candidate until he exploded in the Final Four.
Projected role: 3-and-D combo guard



Physical Comps
PLAYER AGE HEIGHT WEIGHT WINGSPAN
Donte DiVincenzo 21.3 6-4.5 201 6-6
Jeremy Lin 21.6 6-4.25 201 6-5
Gary Harris 19.7 6-4.5 205 6-6.75
Jamal Murray 18.6 6-4.25 207 6-6.5


Jacob Evans | SG/SF | Age: 20.9 | Cincinnati

Strengths

  • Good combination of size, frame and length for the wing position.

  • Versatile player who ticks a number of boxes NBA teams look for at his position. Shot 38 percent from 3 in his three seasons in college, while posting a 2-1 assist-to-turnover ratio. Was asked to play some point guard his junior year and did a good job of facilitating for teammates. Multi-positional defender at the college level.

  • Young for his class. Similarly aged with sophomores projected to be drafted.
Improvement areas

  • Average athlete. Doesn't have a great deal of juice off the dribble. Plays mostly below the rim.

  • Difficult to see him emerging as a prolific shot-creator despite his solid feel for the game. Tends to blend in at times.

  • Shooting mechanics are unorthodox.
Projected role: 3-and-D wing



Physical Comps
PLAYER AGE HEIGHT WEIGHT WINGSPAN
Jacob Evans 20.9 6-5.5 200 6-9.25
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope 20.4 6-5.5 204 6-8
Buddy Hield 22.4 6-5 212 6-9.25
Danny Green 22 6-6.5 208 6-10
 
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Dzanan Musa | C | Age: 19.0 | Cedevita
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Strengths

  • Has excellent size for the wing at 6-8 without shoes. Theoretically can play some 4, despite having a wing skill-set.

  • Gifted, aggressive scorer with a nose for putting the ball in the basket. Has done it at every level he's played. Career 23 points per-40 minutes in 228 games. Averaged over 22 points per-40 in an efficient manner, playing against top European competition as an 18-year-old, an extremely rare feat historically. Can create his own offense impressively and make tough shots off the dribble. Advanced pick-and-roll player. Great in the open floor pushing rebounds off the defensive glass. Takes and makes 3-pointers prolifically.

  • Instinctive, competitive player. Has toughness. Doesn't mind contact. Draws fouls in bunches. Finds teammates creatively. Solid rebounder. Gets in the passing lanes. Plays with a chip on his shoulder. Loves the big moments. Infatuated with the NBA. Idolizes Kobe Bryant.
Improvement areas

  • Just an average athlete. Upper body is hunched, causing him to play smaller than his size. Needs to continue to improve his frame. Hasn't put on all that much weight over the past few years. Major question marks about his ability to defend his own position.

  • Competitive nature can get the best of him. Rubs teammates and coaches the wrong way at times. Body language leaves something to be desired.

  • Shot-selection and decision making could stand to improve. Likes to catch, hold and iso, which won't be his role early on and may not be viable long-term with his average tools. Career 31 percent 3-point shooter on 680-plus attempts.
Projected role: Microwave scorer



Physical Comps
PLAYER AGE HEIGHT WEIGHT WINGSPAN
Dzanan Musa 18.1 6-8.5 195 6-9
Joe Ingles 21.7 6-10.25 209 6-8.25
Rodney Hood 21.6 6-8.5 208 6-8.5
Omri Casspi 21 6-9.25 211 6-9.25

Khyri Thomas | SG/SF | Age: 22.0 | Creighton
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Strengths

  • Not overly tall at a shade under 6-4 in shoes but has a massive 6-10½ wingspan that should allow him to defend any of the backcourt positions. Strong frame.

  • Highly efficient offensive player. Career 58 percent 2-point shooter and 41 percent from 3. Hit 67 percent of his free throws as a senior. A good passer. Understands his role. Rarely turns the ball over. Strong feel.

  • One of the better defenders in the draft. Physical player who brings a consistently high energy level. Talks non-stop. Showed the ability to guard anywhere from 1-4 at the college level. Doesn't get posted up despite lack of size. Gets in the passing lanes consistently. Career 2.0 steals per-40. Coaching staff raves about his approach to the game and intangibles.
Improvement areas

  • Not a prolific offensive player. Was a role-player most of his college career. Doesn't have much wiggle with the ball. Rarely gets to the free throw line. At his best making spot-up jumpers and attacking in the open floor. Struggles to shoot off the dribble.

  • Already 22 years old. One of the older players projected to be picked among potential first rounders.

  • Lack of size isn't ideal at 6-2½ barefoot coupled with his lack of ball skills. Will need to be surrounded with creators at the 1 and 3.
Projected role: 3-and-D wing



Physical Comps
PLAYER AGE HEIGHT WEIGHT WINGSPAN
Khyri Thomas 22 6-3.75 199 6-10.5
E'Twaun Moore 22 6-4 191 6-9.5
Norman Powell 22 6-4.25 215 6-10.75
Gerald Henderson 21.6 6-5 215 6-10.25

Grayson Allen | SG | Age: 22.6 | Duke
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Strengths

  • Made a large volume of 3s throughout his college career (38 percent). 85 percent free throw shooter. Shoots it with deep range pulling up off the bounce or with his feet set. Can come off screens and shoot on the move.

  • Good athlete in the open court. Explosive leaper in space. Attacks closeouts with excellent footwork. Makes a lot of hustle plays. Gets in the passing lanes frequently. Energetic, tough and competitive. Willing to do the little things.

  • Can play some point guard in a pinch. Runs the offense. Passes ahead in transition. Can drive and dish some. Unselfish player overall. Academic All-American. Ticks a number of boxes NBA teams look for in a role player.
Improvement areas

  • Clunky ball-handler. Lacks a degree of wiggle and shiftiness. Two-footed jumper who lacks the length to finish efficiently inside the paint. Doesn't get to the free throw line at a great rate. Mostly a straight line driver. Relies heavily on pull-up jumpers.

  • Heavy footed defender. Doesn't cover ground well. Gets burned off the bounce too frequently.

  • Didn't show much improvement from his sophomore to senior year. Was an inconsistent player overall. Numbers stagnated against elite-level competition. Struggled to handle pressure at times. Tripping incidents.
Projected role: Energetic shooting backup combo guard



Physical Comps
PLAYER AGE HEIGHT WEIGHT WINGSPAN
Grayson Allen 22.6 6-4.5 198 6-7.25
Jrue Holiday 19.1 6-4.25 199 6-7
Austin Rivers 19.9 6-5 203 6-7.25
Gary Harris 19.7 6-4.5 205 6-6.75

Josh Okogie | SG | Age: 19.7 | Georgia Tech2015 Nike Global Challenge.

  • Improved standstill shooter who made 38 percent of his 3s and 82.1 percent of his free throws; 93rd percentile on 62 catch-and-shoot jumpers. Was tasked with the role of primary shot-creator on an underwhelming Georgia Tech team, which played a big part in his inefficiencies offensively.
Improvement areas

  • Extremely rigid ball handler. Shouldn't be tasked with shot-creation duties in the half court. Struggles to change speeds and directions. Feel for the game is still a work in progress. Unable to execute simple passes. Partially a function of developed bad habits given his role in college but settles for low-percentage shots in the half court. Head down to the rim. Career 119 assists to 134 turnovers.
  • Still has questions to answer as a shooter, especially off the dribble. Shoots a set shot on the move. Doesn't get much lift. Needs time and space.
  • Not the finisher his tools suggest. Career 45.4 percent from 2 on 768 attempts. Shot 43.2 percent from 2 as a sophomore. Shot 44.6 percent at the rim in the half court and 0-for-10 on floaters.
Projected role: 3-and-D wing



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PLAYER AGE HEIGHT WEIGHT WINGSPAN
Josh Okogie 19.7 6-4.5 211 7-0
Norman Powell 22 6-4.25 215 6-10.75
Tyreke Evans 19.8 6-5.25 221 6'-1.25
Jason Richardson 20.4 6-5.75 213 6-11.5
 
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I’d rather have Grayson Allen than Jalen Brunson... and that says a lot. Brunson May end up being a backup pg for 10 years... which is great but you can find a backup point on the cheap... I will be beside myself if we go that route
 
Bawse Dawg said:
If James Harden is a limited ceiling then idk what a high ceiling is.
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He is not James Harden. He does not possess that type of scoring ability. He's averaged 9.2 PPG in 174 Euroleague and Liga ACB games. Harden averaged 19.0 PPG in college. 21.0 in his final year. Doncic career 3 point % is 33.3% and as his attempts rise his percentage drops. Harden shot 37.6% from 3 in college. Doncic gets to the line a decent amount but nowhere near Harden's FTA rate. Harden is also a superior athlete. Harden entered the NBA as a scorer. Doncic is more of a facilitator who can score a little. It's a ridiculous comp IMO.

I see Doncic having a ceiling similar to Gordon Hayward or Manu Ginobili. Fringe all star, fringe all NBA. 2nd or 3rd best player on a great team.
 
SCS said:
He is not James Harden. He does not possess that type of scoring ability. He's averaged 9.2 PPG in 174 Euroleague and Liga ACB games. Harden averaged 19.0 PPG in college. 21.0 in his final year. Doncic career 3 point % is 33.3% and as his attempts rise his percentage drops. Harden shot 37.6% from 3 in college. Doncic gets to the line a decent amount but nowhere near Harden's FTA rate. Harden is also a superior athlete. Harden entered the NBA as a scorer. Doncic is more of a facilitator who can score a little. It's a ridiculous comp IMO.

I see Doncic having a ceiling similar to Gordon Hayward or Manu Ginobili. Fringe all star, fringe all NBA. 2nd or 3rd best player on a great team.
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The Euroleague is better and different from college. Not comparable.

I’m not going to spend a bunch of time arguing whether or not an 18 year old draft pick will turn out great or not. It’s a crapshoot. But the kid has a ton of talent. And is young, we’ll see if he puts it together.
 
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