Jazz Free Agency Summer of 2018

[RandyForRubio]

He didn't always suck though, we did a more sucky thing drafting Raul Lopez.

López was good and then got hurt after we drafted him.

 

[RandyForRubio]

OK, so I've been thinking:

- Jimmy Butler wants out of Minny

- Jimmy wants to play with Kyrie

- BOS has Kyrie

Why not BOS trade Hayward to the Celtics + a 1st round pick for Jimmy Butler?

Why BOS do it? They could win it all next year with Kyrie, Butler, Brown, Tatum, Horford. Their window is closing as Kyrie might not return next year.

Why MIN do it? They have a disgruntled Butler. They can swap him for Hayward who will happily play 3rd fiddle to Wiggins and Towns. MIN picks up a 1st rounder. MIN gets Hayward on a long term contract.

Win/Win/Win

AND it's a WIN for us as well with Hayward being stuck in the West back where he didn't want to be.

Why would Boston do it?

Butler essentially has one year left on his contract since the last year is a player option that he will certainly opt out of. So you’re going to trade Hayward, and a 1st, for the possibility of one year of Butler? You have to get an extension figured out first, but if they do that can they afford their young talent? Rozier, Brown, etc?

I just don’t think Butler is worth Hayward and a 1st. Butler and Hayward straight up could be fair, but you have to figure out a contract first.

 

[RandyForRubio]

López was good and then got hurt after we drafted him.

Ugh. There’s a trip down memory lane. López was gonna be so good. Instead we got Carlos friggin Arroyo starting. I do miss all of Puerto Rico invading Jazzfanz though.

 

[jazfan23]

Ugh. There’s a trip down memory lane. López was gonna be so good. Instead we got Carlos friggin Arroyo starting. I do miss all of Puerto Rico invading Jazzfanz though.

How could you forget the Keith McLeod movement and his coach whoever that dude was posting on every internet site about how good Keith was ... dark dark years

 

[TheStormofWar]

López was good and then got hurt after we drafted him.

Agreed. I don't look back at drafts as "we could have had X player so Y GM sucks" if player X is injured. Injuries derail athletes all the time and can't really be predicted. So if a pick doesn't pan out due to injuries that aren't predictable, then I don't fault an organization for making that pick.

 

[LoPo]

Except for Portland with Greg Oden. Benjamin Button was an awful pick. I go wing over big every time if its close.

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[TheStormofWar]

Except for Portland with Greg Oden. Benjamin Button was an awful pick. I go wing over big every time if its close.

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In the game today, that's a good thing to do if the talent is equal. So weird to think how much has flipped in a few years when one of the most sacred rules of drafting gets turned on its head.

 

[Rubashov]

OK, so I've been thinking:

Its good to try new things.

 

[LifeOnaPlate]

Happy Benedict Haywood Day!

 

[silesian]

Yup... that's the BS part... that makes this hopeless. They get all the ring chasers on exceptions. Unique circumstances keep happening that continue to screw small markets.

I don't see a correlation with success and market size. Nets, Knicks, Lakers, Clippers.

OKC has one of smallest markets and they landed 2 top players. Spurs have been best-ish team over last 20ish years.

 

[silesian]

Salary Cap $102
Luxury Tax $124
Hard Cap $134 (always $10 above luxury)
Only minimum contracts allowed if above tax

Its not that hard.

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You think this solves the problem of superteams?

 

[silesian]

Maybe Steve Kerr has something to do with it. He's created a chill atmosphere, ala the zen master, and guys want to play for him. What coach(and what team) is better prepared to deal with Boogie? The only player I can see getting into it with him is Draymond.

Similar to Rodman and Phil Jackson, perhaps. But Rodman put in 100% effort on the court and he was weird. Whereas Boogie is a condescending dick to teammates. Which requires adult supervision.