Locke and DX Givony podcast

[NUMBERICA]

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Yeah, you care or you don't. He didn't, and now everyone's supposed to just assume that he does now? Not everyone can be a great defender, but everyone can care, or even PRETEND to care. The clips in that video are literally some of the worst defense I've ever seen. Dude didn't (doesn't?) care. AT. ALL. Not even enough to pretend.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Yeah, you care or you don't. He didn't, and now everyone's supposed to just assume that he does now? Not everyone can be a great defender, but everyone can care, or even PRETEND to care. The clips in that video are literally some of the worst defense I've ever seen. Dude didn't (doesn't?) care. AT. ALL. Not even enough to pretend.

I think it just shows his character. I mean, of course he is going to try harder than those HS days, but I think we know now that he isn't one of those guys who is going to give it his all no matter what. He isn't a guy who has his motor running full blast all the time.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I think it just shows his character. I mean, of course he is going to try harder than those HS days, but I think we know now that he isn't one of those guys who is going to give it his all no matter what. He isn't a guy who has his motor running full blast all the time.

That kind of mentality is poison. In an ideal draft, you're going to have a crazy competitor AND a good talent at #3. This draft? Just a bunch of question marks. Knight is the closest thing I guess.

 

[zbone]

I have a little more confidence in JV's offense than Biyombo's. I have a little more confidence in Biyombo's defence than JV's. But I like JV's FT% so you don't have to worry about a hack-a-bismack strategy.

The thing about JV is he is not known as a defensive monster as well.

 

[The Midnight]

Yeah, you care or you don't. He didn't, and now everyone's supposed to just assume that he does now? Not everyone can be a great defender, but everyone can care, or even PRETEND to care. The clips in that video are literally some of the worst defense I've ever seen. Dude didn't (doesn't?) care. AT. ALL. Not even enough to pretend.

Well think about it - if it was you, you just arrived in the country, you're waiting to be accepted into a college to play ball and you already have a number of colleges wanting your service.

Would you go hard and risk injury? Or would you just play well enough and then go hard at the next level?

Seriously I mean, this is not a vacuum he's playing in here.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Well think about it - if it was you, you just arrived in the country, you're waiting to be accepted into a college to play ball and you already have a number of colleges wanting your service.

Would you go hard and risk injury? Or would you just play well enough and then go hard at the next level?

Seriously I mean, this is not a vacuum he's playing in here.

Brandon Knight went hard.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Well think about it - if it was you, you just arrived in the country, you're waiting to be accepted into a college to play ball and you already have a number of colleges wanting your service.

Would you go hard and risk injury? Or would you just play well enough and then go hard at the next level?

Blah blah blah. Excuses. We're not talking about diving for loose balls here, or blocking shots from behind in transition. He's standing straight up, completely loafing, not engaged whatsoever, with his arms down. I've never seen such nothing. This makes Boozer's effort-level on defense look Rodman-esque.

If you have to rationalize when to try and when to not (at all), you don't have "it".

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Blah blah blah. Excuses. We're not talking about diving for loose balls here, or blocking shots from behind in transition. He's standing straight up, completely loafing, not engaged whatsoever, with his arms down. I've never seen such nothing. This makes Boozer's effort-level on defense look Rodman-esque.

If you have to rationalize when to try and when to not (at all), you don't have "it".

The "He is going to college so why try hard" is a cop out too. There are hundreds, probably thousands of High School basketball players who have a lot more to lose than Kanter did, and they play hard.

 

[The Midnight]

The "He is going to college so why try hard" is a cop out too. There are hundreds, probably thousands of High School basketball players who have a lot more to lose than Kanter did, and they play hard.

Again - my main argument is you don't pass on a guy just because he's not there (yet) defensively. We already have Favors for that.

Look at the Finals - game 4 - Dallas had Chandler - but it was Nowitzki who put his team on his back flu and all and hit the game winning shot.

That's the kind of player we're looking at here, a big who's skilled enough to put the ball on the floor, shoot it, draw fouls.

And as for drafting Knight - over the past 10 years - how many PG do you see dominating the final? This year's cast: Wade's a SG, LeBron - SF, Bosh - PF, Nowitzki - PF, Terry - SF. I haven't seen a true PG dominating in the Finals since - let's see - 2004 with Billups.

And for those thinking Kanter didn't go HARD in High School - have a look at the video below and compared it to Givony's "I won't show the whole game, but instead only edit in bits that support my argument" video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5kAZL0Q3ic

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Again - my main argument is you don't pass on a guy just because he's not there (yet) defensively. We already have Favors for that.

Look at the Finals - game 4 - Dallas had Chandler - but it was Nowitzki who put his team on his back flu and all and hit the game winning shot.

That's the kind of player we're looking at here, a big who's skilled enough to put the ball on the floor, shoot it, draw fouls.

And as for drafting Knight - over the past 10 years - how many PG do you see dominating the final? This year's cast: Wade's a SG, LeBron - SF, Bosh - PF, Nowitzki - PF, Terry - SF. I haven't seen a true PG dominating in the Finals since - let's see - 2004 with Billups.

And for those thinking Kanter didn't go HARD in High School - have a look at the video below and compared it to Givony's "I won't show the whole game, but instead only edit in bits that support my argument" video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5kAZL0Q3ic

Did you just call Jason Terry a SF?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Again - my main argument is you don't pass on a guy just because he's not there (yet) defensively. We already have Favors for that.

Look at the Finals - game 4 - Dallas had Chandler - but it was Nowitzki who put his team on his back flu and all and hit the game winning shot.

That's the kind of player we're looking at here, a big who's skilled enough to put the ball on the floor, shoot it, draw fouls.

And as for drafting Knight - over the past 10 years - how many PG do you see dominating the final? This year's cast: Wade's a SG, LeBron - SF, Bosh - PF, Nowitzki - PF, Terry - SF. I haven't seen a true PG dominating in the Finals since - let's see - 2004 with Billups.

And for those thinking Kanter didn't go HARD in High School - have a look at the video below and compared it to Givony's "I won't show the whole game, but instead only edit in bits that support my argument" video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5kAZL0Q3ic

Have you watched Givony's video? It is far from all negative. There is an offensive video that shows him doing some very good (and bad) things. His defensive video is mostly bad, but there are some few good moments in it too. Givony does a good job of compiling footage and doesn't point out to the viewer "Oh, here is the positive part, here is the negative part".

 

[The Midnight]

Did you just call Jason Terry a SF?

My bad - Terry - SG.