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TheStormofWar said:
I'm probably one of the biggest Favors homers on this board, but I'm ecstatically happy for Derrick right now. He's always been an underappreciated and under rated player to me.
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I hope there is some way they can find to fill up a contender roster that includes Favirs.

Can you imagine the broken hearts within the organization when they had their contract meeting? Having to state the obvious? "Look Derrick, you know our situation. We have to improve on the wing, on a guy who can create his own shots. And now we have Rudy. We love you man. We want to keep you but what are we to do? You're worth so much, but not enough. You understand, right? We have to remain flexible next summer, and that means we might have to let you walk, but want to keep an option open to selfishly collar you if we must".

Brutally honest meeting and I feel bad for a guy who has always stayed above the fray, worked his but off, and been genuine to fans. Milsap 2.0.
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
I hope there is some way they can find to fill up a contender roster that includes Favirs.

Can you imagine the broken hearts within the organization when they had their contract meeting? Having to state the obvious? "Look Derrick, you know our situation. We have to improve on the wing, on a guy who can create his own shots. And now we have Rudy. We love you man. We want to keep you but what are we to do? You're worth so much, but not enough. You understand, right? We have to remain flexible next summer, and that means we might have to let you walk, but want to keep an option open to selfishly collar you if we must".

Brutally honest meeting and I feel bad for a guy who has always stayed above the fray, worked his but off, and been genuine to fans. Milsap 2.0.
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Going strong:eek:
#dontlookback
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
I hope there is some way they can find to fill up a contender roster that includes Favirs.

Can you imagine the broken hearts within the organization when they had their contract meeting? Having to state the obvious? "Look Derrick, you know our situation. We have to improve on the wing, on a guy who can create his own shots. And now we have Rudy. We love you man. We want to keep you but what are we to do? You're worth so much, but not enough. You understand, right? We have to remain flexible next summer, and that means we might have to let you walk, but want to keep an option open to selfishly collar you if we must".

Brutally honest meeting and I feel bad for a guy who has always stayed above the fray, worked his but off, and been genuine to fans. Milsap 2.0.
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They also gave him a 8 mill a year raise as a thank you/compensation. A 66% increase.

I don’t feel bad for him at all. Wish I got that kind of deal.
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
I hope there is some way they can find to fill up a contender roster that includes Favirs.

Can you imagine the broken hearts within the organization when they had their contract meeting? Having to state the obvious? "Look Derrick, you know our situation. We have to improve on the wing, on a guy who can create his own shots. And now we have Rudy. We love you man. We want to keep you but what are we to do? You're worth so much, but not enough. You understand, right? We have to remain flexible next summer, and that means we might have to let you walk, but want to keep an option open to selfishly collar you if we must".

Brutally honest meeting and I feel bad for a guy who has always stayed above the fray, worked his but off, and been genuine to fans. Milsap 2.0.
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I genuinely doubt it went like that. Favors only real weakness is his lack of a mid-range to 3p shot. Otherwise, he does everything else you'd want in a big man and he plays multiple positions. Plus the Jazz worked to repair the relationship with him and you don't make that kind of investment with a guy you are planning to jettison. But there's no denying there's room for improvement. So I think the Jazz went into the off season with the contract idea. 18m is an overpay somewhat. Favors real value is close to 15m on a team because he is a starting caliber type of center for a lot of teams in the league. That said, if he manages to develop a 3p corner shot that he can hit on volume, he solves our stretch 4 issues and becomes worth that contract (if not slightly undervalued).

I like the comparison to Horford because his shot developed over time, similar to Derrick, but he really busted it out in 2015-16. Not lethal, but it's respectable enough that you have to take that into account. Derrick can very easily do the same because there is some semblance there and his mechanics aren't bad. He's dealt with some injuries which hurt his development some. Now that he's injury free and playing for 2nd contract, he's got every reason to park it in the corner this summer and launch away. Plus Favors is a genuine team guy at his core and he knows that Utah needs it desperately. If he makes it work, it only increases his overall capability and Utah will run more plays for him. If not, we go shopping in 2019 and there's no harm to Favors because he got a nice payday out of it.

We'll see what happens, but Utah is very much giving Derrick the first opportunity to be that guy we need.
 
Stoked said:
They also gave him a 8 mill a year raise as a thank you/compensation. A 66% increase.

I don’t feel bad for him at all. Wish I got that kind of deal.
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Contract negotiations are not "giving a raise". The two are completely separate situations.

Also, it was a $5 mil increase, not 8, and since his salary was front loaded that's not even an honest increase number. It was more like a $3 mil increase in practical calculations.
 
TheStormofWar said:
I'm probably one of the biggest Favors homers on this board, but I'm ecstatically happy for Derrick right now. He's always been an underappreciated and under rated player to me.
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I am/have been one too all along. There is no Jazz player that I love more than Favors when you count everthing including attitude. When the day of his retirement comes the Jazz should honor this example of a franchise player with the best of their capabilities.
 
Stoked said:
They also gave him a 8 mill a year raise as a thank you/compensation. A 66% increase.

I don’t feel bad for him at all. Wish I got that kind of deal.
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Hell yeah. I am getting ready to start a new job and I will get maybe a 10% bump out of it, maybe 12% depending on negotiations. I would LOVE a 66% raise. **** yeah.
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
Contract negotiations are not "giving a raise". The two are completely separate situations.

Also, it was a $5 mil increase, not 8, and since his salary was front loaded that's not even an honest increase number. It was more like a $3 mil increase in practical calculations.
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He got 12 last season, and is getting about 18 now. About 6 million more this year. Not sure why I put 8 lol

As for me saying raise. Fine, we amicably gave him several million more a season for his troubles in a new contract. Something we didn’t have to do.

You’re welcome Favors.

Glad he’s back but I don’t “feel” for him at all.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Hell yeah. I am getting ready to start a new job and I will get maybe a 10% bump out of it, maybe 12% depending on negotiations. I would LOVE a 66% raise. **** yeah.
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Not sure why I said 8 when it’s 6. So a 50%. But still lol
 
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